# Discussion: Champion

Jan 18, 2020 12:32 AM
Good job! Kind of an interesting calculation. I was trying to figure out how I got listed on Green, when I never actually ran Green. Then I was trying to figure out how Mark Webb came in ahead of me -- turns out it rewards quantity as well as quality.
Jan 18, 2020 12:56 AM
Yeah, I'm not sure how the numbers got run, but consistency seems to help, I ran 10 races. But it also included the Score-O at Mount Tom and the Traverse, neither of which were green. I didn't have a terrible run at Mt. Tom yet you got over 100 points and I got 33 pts. I certainly didn't run 3x longer than you did (only 9 minutes slower in fact)...
Jan 18, 2020 1:10 AM
It does appear to be the sum of all scores, and your category is just based on age, so we're Green because we're M55s. The math is dubious, but it's all for fun.
Jan 18, 2020 8:49 PM
It rewards running in a younger class, I think about 120% for up 1 course (class is basically course color). I got lots of points per event as I usually run red (2 up from Brown), but still was 3rd behind others who had a lot more events than I.
We now have this computerized, thanks to Mark O'Connell, and it will update after each event next year.
We should have the algorithm up on the website, or I'll look into getting it there.
Mark mentioned how he treated the Traverse and Score O, but I cannot remember the details.
Jan 18, 2020 9:13 PM
Thanks for the update... it would be interesting to see the algorithm explained on the website at some point. Just seemed weird that there was such a huge discrepancy between JJ & I at the Mt Tom meet since we are basically the same age (class) and were only 9 minutes apart. JJ also got me by 10 points at the Traverse, even though we ran together for the entire thing. I did punch about 2 steps behind him though... Perhaps the points are awarded based on finish position rather than relative time.
Jan 19, 2020 9:27 PM
I recall Mark saying the first place finisher gets 100 points, then each of N behind him or her gets scaled 1/N of the way to 0. So I guess a 1 runner class gives 100, 2 runners gives 100/50, 3 runners gives 100/67/33. Points are regardless of whether the 2nd place was 1 second or 30 minutes behind 1st place. Points are also regardless of how weak or strong the competition was or how gnarly the course was. Only who finished that course, that day.
Jan 20, 2020 1:51 AM
Thanks, that is indeed what it looks like, at least for Mt Tom. Doesn't make any sense to me, but whatever, its just for fun...
Jan 23, 2020 9:33 PM
How times have changed. Apparently I didn't even run one NEOC event.