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Discussion: Avalanche school

in: Guisborough1; Guisborough1 > 2020-01-31

Feb 1, 2020 10:53 PM # 
igoup:
Any details?

re: Yurets
People keep engaging him. I get that he's an ass and would have no problem telling him off at events when he acts up. But on AP people just keep feeding the flames and derailing threads all by themselves. He's clearly impervious to admonishments and criticism. So IMO, just ignore him. It's getting tiresome reading threads on the main board not because of Yurets but because of the incessant whining about him. Just my opinion.
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Feb 2, 2020 4:11 AM # 
Guisborough1:
Yep. Correct. I posted on my log because what's said on that thread should relate to WUOC. Not his bonkers stuff.
Anyway, Avalanche School.....insane. Basic level goes into assorts of rescue scenarios, weather, aspect, types of fracture, slope angle. But the amount of in depth analysis of snow pack and how layers of snow change in a season......it's mind boggling. Dug a pit today and studied snow for two hours. This is entry level.
My mate said, "if you leave not shitting your pants and never wanting to go backcountry skiing again you've not learnt anything." I'm seriously never going down anything greater than a 30 degree angle slope in the foreseeable future. And I'm not going to invest in any gear. Just rent now and again. (Except beacon, shovel and probe......and maybe an airbag) The snowboard guru downstairs confessed he triggered an avalanche on Thursday. He had to deploy his bag. The whole town is chatting about it and the instructors want to know where it happened. But won't tell. He keeps all his terrain on the quiet. I've found it's like the mason's or other secret cults. Everyone in this town has their little pieces of turf.
Silverton Avalanche School do a very professional job. Two very good instructors to 6 students.
Feb 2, 2020 12:07 PM # 
JLaughlin:
Avalanches are dangerous. It sounds like the training is what I expected from a good course.
Feb 3, 2020 1:05 AM # 
igoup:
I think that course sounds really interesting but, ultimately, going into those areas is a bit too scary for me. Once, long ago, when I was younger and stupider, on the way to a double-black a friend and I saw a sign that said, "Warning. Rocks, cliffs and high avalanche danger. Skiing not recommended." However, there were tracks heading that way so we decided it must be doable. Obviously, all turned out well but it was a dumb decision. Testosterone is not always a good thing. Be smart and be safe.
Feb 3, 2020 1:18 AM # 
Guisborough1:
Funnily enough I've decided to skip backcountry. The course was a massive eye opener. I was expecting to finish thinking let's do what you just described Tom. Now I might take the bairns on anything less than 30 degrees. Anything above.....Na. Not interested. Stick to the boundaries. The thought of being totally out of control of the situation doesn't appeal. If you mess up climbing, it's usually your fault. But no matter how much science is involved, avalanches are Russian roulette. I think you both would have liked this course. Silverton do these courses for all. NASA to special forces to search and rescue to pipeline workers. Interesting stuff.
Feb 3, 2020 4:05 PM # 
igoup:
NY Times article on avalanche school
Feb 3, 2020 7:35 PM # 
Guisborough1:
Good article. Three things:
Interesting stat that I'm more likely to die in an avalanche than last Friday morning.
That Avalanche at Red Mt. Pass was Silverton Avi School. They touched on it.
NYT wrote another article. We had to read about "Tunnel Creek". That read put me off for good.
Really like that article. Thank You!
Feb 3, 2020 8:21 PM # 
igoup:
Found a Tunnel Creek video. Ugh. I'm way too stupid for out-of-boundaries skiing; I would make dumb decisions.

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