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Discussion: Excuses

in: benmitchell; benmitchell > 2020-02-02

Feb 2, 2020 7:13 PM # 
So, did Meg beat you?
Feb 2, 2020 7:51 PM # 
yes but shes not counting it as official so I’m safe for a bit longer
Feb 2, 2020 8:31 PM # 
Scrappy Doo:
She's far too nice..... the results do not lie and are down for history to see :-)
Feb 2, 2020 8:34 PM # 
Apparently, the pit had a tag in it (& no control). I was at the right pit, no flag; moved to the right, saw flag. 15 seconds "lost" . They should maybe void that leg? (I was on the Blue, & we approached from the east)

Megan's far too nice & sporting to "count" it! ;-)
Feb 2, 2020 8:36 PM # 
Mark Two:
But that doesn't mean the rest of us can't "count it".
Feb 2, 2020 8:49 PM # 
fake news
Feb 2, 2020 9:51 PM # 
Void the whole course imo.
Feb 3, 2020 9:42 AM # 
Turned out that someone had moved the control mid-race to a different pit!

Who was the someone?
This should never happen. I once moved a control at an event my club was organising, but only because I was first starter and very sure that I was the first person to visit it. I was also very sure that I was moving it to the correct place.
In any other circumstances I think it should stay in the same place for the whole competition so that at least it's the same for everyone. Results can then be fiddled with retrospectively if necessary.

Well run Meg. The results look good as they presently stand.
Feb 3, 2020 12:13 PM # 
I don't know who moved it. Did they really? I am not 100% sure it was in the wrong pit when *I* was there, but I did turn right (approach from east) & find it v quickly. Was then too far north for no 17 so suggests possibly wrong pit.

Void control 108, i think.
Feb 3, 2020 12:24 PM # 
Given that I "spiked" it, I reckon it must have been in the wrong place!! :)

At Stockhill I reckon the chances are it was moved by locals with a grudge. Possibly chucked by someone, and then first orienteer on scene just uprighted it?
Feb 3, 2020 12:25 PM # 
No idea. All I know is Jackie (planner) went and checked and it wasn't where she placed it.
Unfortunately I didn't spot the tape in the correct pit and didn't have the confidence in that bit of area to be 100% certain I was right (pit amongst broken ground, vague veg boundaries etc.) so back and forth I went navigating to the same place before luckily spotting someone climbing out of a pit a fair bit further north.
Feb 3, 2020 2:20 PM # 
I wonder if it will be voided now. Just watched routegadget. You were spot on....

your no 14, was my no 1 & I also "dithered" near the circle. Just didn't get any flow out there yesterday! (I'm not talking about your main error at no 14 when you were distracted, btw!!)
Feb 4, 2020 1:25 PM # 
Think you're still safe Ben, at least according to Routegadget - Meg should be DISQed for not going to the start triangle...
Feb 4, 2020 1:59 PM # 
Guilty.. I did nip into the woods a few metres early because it was an absolute mudbath around the start flag. But got me thinking - what are the actual rules around ‘going to the start kite’ - like how close do you have to go?
Feb 4, 2020 4:53 PM # 
22.6 ...If necessary, there shall be a marked route from the time start to the point where orienteering begins.

22.8 The point where orienteering begins shall be shown on the map with the start triangle and marked in the terrain by a control flag but no marking device.

It doesn't really say, but the orienteering starts at that point, so technically Megan is a DNS. This makes the map sad.
Feb 4, 2020 5:30 PM # 
To be fair I did actually go through the light green in the start triangle (gps is off). Next time I will bash/splash through that mudbath!
Feb 6, 2020 8:43 PM # 
Old Daniel:
Stock Hill is not an easy area, either physically or what does this tell us
Megan is fast its no surprise to see her at the top....if she could maintain this speed in a World Cup terrain...…
Ben has been so consistent since being in Bristol its a shock if he does not win.....if he could maintain his consistency in a World Cup race...….
those autographs I have got might just be going up in value!

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