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Discussion: Topping out on training/no go on marathons

in: Bags

Feb 24, 2020 12:56 PM # 
Bags:
Well I'm reaching my max for now. I just hope to hold on and keep staying injury free. All the google stretch, strengthen, balance out front back and side muscle strength seems to be working...and I admit when I'm training I keep thinking about marathon, but it's crazy...I'm way too far from even running under 4:30 marathon and that still does appeal to me other than as a workout/first step towards gaining the strength to run longer.

Also I'm trying to free up Saturdays but I hate to preenter races as never know when a strain will pop up. I'm out of the groove. The OKC Marathon starts at 6:30...the 5k at 7. I got up about 3:30 this year to warmup, drink coffee, and then get downtown, park and sort my way around, then get in a mob group after the full and 1/2 marathons started as the 5k was up to 4k runners...that's still a lot of runners...

My lower back was killing me, when I sat...my core is way stronger than it was but actual number of situps is down by a lot to make time for all the stuff I do...but I decided to try doing more situps...and it seemed to work right away...not 100%, but it there definitely for the short term an improvement of when I stand up after sitting. It did not bother me to run, golf or exercise...

YOUR 12 miler was another great run...your standards are so much higher than mine now...I was forced to lower mine...year by year...11 minutes is about like 7:15-7:30 in the old days...10 minutes is like 6:30 pace...I have dipped below 9 minutes for last min a few times past couple of months...and my surges/fartlek are helping. Even if most weeks I can only get in one workout of the fartlek...ironically it's during my long run, but actually it speeds me up two ways...overall speed and I go from 14 min first mile to 12 or better the second mile and down to 11 or so by third mile...it would take a mile or two longer...plus there's the mental aspect of doing quick bursts for 2 miles during first half of long run...once they are over it takes at least a mile to settle in to steady run the rest of the way...

Good luck. The Koski's are on a roll right now.
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Feb 24, 2020 3:01 PM # 
Toivo!:
The thought of getting up early to race almost makes me sick. Everytime I do, I ask myself "Why?!"
btw... I told Keenan I'd get your email and tele # so he can contact you regarding the North Shore Striders reunion this summer.
So...
Feb 24, 2020 4:26 PM # 
Bags:
Weird. I was just going to ask you about Keenan. It was amazing what happened with Grandma's. I still remember going to run a Paavo Marathon with a group of us including him. He felt you should not do dairy products that close to the race...of course it was in front of a ice cream stand or something like that with shakes malts...I can't remember if I went ahead and got one or not...also can't remember if that was the year I had to 'ghost' it because they wouldn't let me enter or I just ran about half of it for a workout (year after my 2:32 or 2:33 ghost effort).

rbagwell1@cox.net and 405.657.7792 for cell. I thought they had some sort of reunion last year at Grandma's. I really should come up.
Feb 24, 2020 4:28 PM # 
Bags:
I just reread what I wrote above...seems like I was on drugs...several thoughts that I did not really write the entire thought out...kinda like my sucky golf game today...
Feb 24, 2020 4:29 PM # 
Bags:
Don't laugh or mock me but do any of the guys you know play golf...I mean seriously (not the question but serious golf...meaning more than than 4 or 5 times a year...and that's a low standard).
Feb 24, 2020 4:32 PM # 
Toivo!:
Yeah... you generally get a free entry to one of the races too. Tee-shirt, meal, plenty of talk about the "good old days."
Thanks.
Feb 24, 2020 4:35 PM # 
Toivo!:
Dave Wicker and Kerry Louks are obsessed with that dumb game.
Feb 24, 2020 4:45 PM # 
Bags:
It's only dumb when you are actually playing it. Endlessly frustrating and costly, time consuming and impossible to conquer. It's the anticipation of playing well and hitting good shots.
Feb 24, 2020 4:46 PM # 
Bags:
I remember the name Louks but nothing else. Dave I remember as we've mentioned his name several times.
Feb 24, 2020 6:03 PM # 
Toivo!:
He took over from Pfingsten as Central coach. Was there for MANY years... original late-60's Strider.
Feb 24, 2020 7:08 PM # 
Bags:
Oh yeah the coach. I think he was there when I was. I thought you meant one of the guys we ran against.

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