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in: philm64; philm64 > 2020-02-28

Feb 28, 2020 2:41 PM # 
... science hasn't been able to (agree it can) detect it in your body doesn't mean it isn't there.

Just because science has been able to detect it in your body doesn't mean you are ever going to know or become aware it is there.

Just because you can detect it in your body doesn't mean it is there.

These propositions are compatible.

I understand there's quite a lot of scientific evidence for the latter two, and presumably the first has happened sufficiently often in the course of the history of scientific discovery and progress that anyone at any point of time so bigoted towards the current state of knowledge that they actively exclude all other possible explanations has to be considered at best misguided.
Feb 28, 2020 3:59 PM # 
True. Of course, in my other life, that of ME/CFS, there are no solid physical explanations for any of it (within normal ranges of tests) (another matter entirely ....)

It's weird. I generally trust pain to tell me what's what. My general feeling against "pain but nothing wrong" is : calf pain - out of the blue last autumn (short lived) on a club run at easy pace & relaxed.

Next run - stressed out of my mind - will calf hurt? Thinking about calf every step. No calf pain. Relax again.

Following week, super chilled again - drop out with calf pain. WTF?

No explanation, no injury, all 3 times went against any "psychological" explanations of why my calf hurt..... we just have to bumble along! My knee now hurts when I press into the MCL meets-bone bit. It didn't in Portugal. Most odd.
Feb 28, 2020 4:14 PM # 
Knee could have just taken a bit of time to react to doing four races in Portugal. Hope it goes away ... or into the all too familiar random pattern that through statistical inference proves you're an old git like the rest of us - albeit a quick one.
Feb 28, 2020 4:30 PM # 
Old git certainly!

But knee was 100% in Portugal, despite fears. Tape was ripped off ceremoniously after stage 4 (5 races.....), and i felt great! (apart from being unfit, but that's OK).

Then: no tape, and lugging big bag back home, & kneeling to re-string guitars. who knows? It's aggravated, I think. Also aggravated by climbing & cycling (avoiding them, btw).

Mainly, though - being old :-(
Feb 28, 2020 4:37 PM # 
Jon X:
So it was fine when you ran every day at POM, has got progressively worse with every day you have rested in since. Good excuse to get back out in the forest asap and see if that solves it again!
Feb 28, 2020 7:31 PM # 
Yep - no pain at POM - was surprised & delighted.

I agree Jon! I'll tape it up tomorrow for the not-yet-cancelled BOK mudbath event !

POM was ace - very strong in M55 ;-) eg.

- I had no chance of being top 3 Brit!!!! Sobering.
Feb 28, 2020 8:16 PM # 
Kneeling (!!!!). Jumping Jehoshaphat. Are you insane?

(Couldn't see how many exclamation marks you'd added. Had to run into the exclamation circle and hunt for the flag. Time for a glasses upgrade.)

I had no chance of being top 3 Brit and I don't find it sobering. As an M45 I couldn't wait to be M50 but now the M55s are all better than us. What's going on?
Feb 28, 2020 8:18 PM # 
Also, I just wanted to say shit snacks somewhere on social media, once in my life.
Feb 28, 2020 8:38 PM # 
Every day something new hurts. The thing that hurt yesterday is sometimes still hurting and sometimes not. There will be another new thing hurting tomorrow.
Feb 28, 2020 8:41 PM # 
My head hurts.

The M55s are better - why? - one word: Quentin. The 1962-born motoring reborn piston machine.

He sets the standard that the rest of us are desperately trying to match. with limited success. Or in my case, recess. But at least we know it's POSSIBLE.

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