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Discussion: Born to Run and Eugene Oregon

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Apr 22, 2020 7:33 PM # 
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I ordered a copy of the book Born to Run about the Mexican distant running tribe. I knew it was from a charity group through Amazon but I did not notice until it arrived today it was in Eugene Oregon. It is 15 minutes from Pre's Rock and also U of Oregon. That is the sign.

I knew when I heard fireworks exploding and that bright light shown down out of the sky that something was up.

I've entered 15 ultra's. Hahaha.

I saw on the Olympic channel where the Japanese runner that won Boston in all the rain and wind 2 years ago had run 80 marathons since 2009 and 90 1/2 marathons. That January he went to Massachusetts to scout the course some and also ran a marathon in the area. That day it was horrible weather but he still ran 2:18 AND was the only finisher. Everyone else dropped out! Never heard of such a thing.
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Apr 23, 2020 1:59 AM # 
Toivo!:
I've actually bought that book for a few people, cuz it's so good.
This article just popped up on my google news feed.https://www.runnersworld.com/runners-stories/a3198...
Apr 23, 2020 3:40 AM # 
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It won't open since I only get the magazine and don't have the + subscription. After a few months it gives me 10 articles or so to look at again. It usually takes only a week or two before I'm suspended again. HOwever I saw the title and the Western States 100 show I saw first showed that guy a lot. On one hand he seemed like a lot (not all) of other 100 runners...a little off and that really is not fair of me. On the other hand it gave a perspective of running the course in a race with all the stops and cheering and having a support group like a Indy 500 pit crew versus on your own with no supplies! He was lucky not to die. Still would have liked to read the article. I've been finding so many things to read and watch it's overwhelming. Kinda Ultra video saturated.

I ran the 1974 Pikes Peak...I guess I've told you that...talking about the time which was 4:34...I can't remember exact splits but think I found the results. You were talking about Katie or someone's ascent time. Now the course has been changed at least once. Also I seem to remember the seeing someone...I think the winner...just cutting down the switchbacks as I was going up. I kept to the trail like everyone else.

I came in 15th! My dad stopped in Manitou Springs and saw my name in results...only time I remember he was that close to watching me race. He actually did not see me so many people but I felt proud. He was not much of a running fan.

After the race this old hairy barechested geezer kinda like the guy from the Western States...Walt Stack from San Francisco sat a table near me. He used to run races and swim somewhere in the SF Bay...someplace safe cuz I know the currents are bad.

It's weird how things come pouring back. Early in the Born to Run book which does seem to have that extra spark you love to find in a book...there is a reference to 3 running booms in US during bad times. 30's, 60's and 2001. Referenced a race across US. There was an Oklahoma Indian that participated ine one:

Andy Hartley Payne was the winner of the International Trans-Continental Footrace in 1928. He ran the 3,423.5 mi route from Los Angeles to New York City, much of it along U.S. Route 66, in 573 hours, 4 minutes, 34 seconds, averaging 6 miles per hour over an 84-day staged run. Wikipedia
Born: November 16, 1907
Died: December 1977.

I did not realize he lived to 77. Anyway they had a Marathon and other races for awhile. I don't think they do anymore. I won the 5k and got my picture in the paper. In those days the OKC paper put a lot of race results in their score part of sports section. When I returned in 93 from Sacramento they only put the big races in there.

I sound like that old geezer from Western States rambling on. He had bad teeth and seemed to have drank 14 beers too many.
Apr 23, 2020 3:57 AM # 
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10 minutes a mile for that far sounds good to me now.

When I get to reminiscing I wished I had run more races, but then I forget I had serious stride issues going all the way back to 84-85 that I could live with then but got progressively worse until 1990 I just could not stomach running far or fast. So I stopped racing until 1993. I think by then it had gone away...I'm sure now my calves and hamstrings were so tight it was causing my stride issues.

Wow...I just go on and on once I start this stuff or talk...really the running scene does not seem that old and yet if you went back 50 years from when we were part of running boom that would be the roaring twenties...which are now 100 years old cuz we're 50 years the other side of the running boom start.

Names get lost like Joe Henderson and Amby Burfoot...I did see Burfoot had a quote on back of book I got today.

My knee feels fine but there is still a little bit of a bubble on top of knee...it turned hard for a few days but now it's soft again. I'm just going to do home therapy and keep going. If it gets to bugging me with pain or tightness then I'll go to Orthopedic guy next.

Which reminds me in the BTRun book that guy telling of going to 3 docs...all nationally known and they could not help his foot issues. They knew a lot but if rest and cortisone did not work it was like you were supposed to quit. The thing about those Mexicans (I keep thinking of them as Indians which I guess they kinda were also) and how they played that ball kicking and ran on really rugged trails...worked all the muscles by all the kicking and jumping and stepping over rocks and going up and down, etc.

I see all the vidoes and some people have all these dirt roads and trail to run on. Even just a dirt road with a few hills would be nice. I get that at my parents for a few miles...the paved parts have dogs or potential for dogs (which ole Ed Whitlock mentioned abandoning running in some areas due to dogs). They put river rock for traction in mud cuz it rained so much a year ago...it really messed things up but by Christmas it was a lot better...rocks were being pushed down into dirt smoothing out).

I keep going on and one...but those ultras on super rocky and narrow paths and with all the tree roots like you mentioned...how do you do that and run IN THE DARK? I know even some of fast guys are walking a lot but even in day time it's hard not to trip.

Saw 100K Hong Kong video...that race is really new...and weird thing was that Dave Mackey had not lost his leg yet and lead first half or so...I think it was less than a year later he had the accident that cost him his leg after a year.

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