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Discussion: HVO/WCOC Local Training Summer 2020

in: HVO/WCOC Local Training Summer 2020 (Jul 12 – Aug 2, 2020 - Cross River, NY, US)

May 23, 2020 4:49 PM # 
Four training courses are now available at Huntington SP. Flags are in the woods:

Start/Finish at the Sunset Hill Road parking lot:
- Red 8.5km - Two alternatives: 10,000 scale on legal sized paper or 7,500 scale on overlapping letter sized
- Green 5.5km - 10,000 scale on letter sized paper
- Brown 3.8km - 7,500 scale on letter sized paper

Start/Finish at the Dodgingtown Road parking lot:
- Bonus 3.9km course in the best HSP terrain - 7,500 scale on letter sized paper

All maps are set to print on letter sized paper, except for one version of the Red course as noted. There are no control codes at the control flags. Remote start/finish is used to encourage proper social distancing in the vicinity of the parking lots.
May 23, 2020 8:24 PM # 
We have also reposted, on the WCOC page, Winter/Spring Series style courses on the Five Ponds map (Litchfield, CT) and the Hurd State Park map (East Hampton, CT). For each map there are 4 options, a map consisting of all the permanent controls, and maps for a long, medium, and short course using the permanent markers. (The Five Ponds courses are the WS courses from 2019; the Hurd courses are the WS courses from 2020.)

The maps can be found at:
May 23, 2020 9:37 PM # 
The Huntington SP courses have standard orienteering flags at the controls.

The Five Ponds and Hurd SP courses use permanent controls. The control features are designated by permanent control markers, 6” x 6”, mounted about 5’ high on trees close to the features with the markers facing the feature.
May 30, 2020 1:24 AM # 
Flags are now out at Ward Pound Ridge. There are Blue/Red/Green/Brown courses - almost identical to the 2016 US Championships Day 2.

Maps are at

WPR can be busy at weekends.
They charge $10 per car everyday after 9.00a.m.
May 30, 2020 1:27 AM # 
Use the same link for the Huntington maps
May 30, 2020 1:39 AM # 
Geof - rough estimate of how long the flags will stay out at WPR? I added it to the OUSA DIY map. Want to know when to remove the pin..
May 30, 2020 11:55 AM # 
no less than 5 weeks. I will post here before we take them down.
May 31, 2020 1:32 PM # 
Ran Huntington last Sunday and had a blast - off to ward pond today! I would say when we arrived at Huntington there was a sign that said prk closed but I spoke to a ranger who turned up after I parked and before I left and she confirmed that if you find a parking spot you are fine so I need not have worried. I figure they close it once it gets to capacity but I don’t think this would have stopped us from parking elsewhere and running into the park.
Jun 1, 2020 2:07 PM # 
Back from Ward Pond and had a great time. Worth noting that the $10 fee ends at 4.30pm in case anyone fancies an evening training session. Park was busy but not terrible.
Jun 1, 2020 8:17 PM # 
Just got back from Pound Ridge. Nice day. Nice course. And got them all this time.

Park not busy at all. A couple other cars, one jogger passed me on a short section of trail. Otherwise saw no one but Lyn as we went back and forth, misdirecting each other.
Jun 3, 2020 2:46 PM # 
Hey there does anyone know where I can get a copy of Tourne County Park NJ? Ive streamered half of the most recent old blue/red course and will probably add the rest tonight that HVO ran and I was thinking I'd add this to the list of courses folks can run.
Jun 4, 2020 4:32 AM # 
I have Tourne map files for several events...
For which event do you have the course?
Jun 4, 2020 3:46 PM # 
Unfortunately I don't know the year - maybe the last one we did? I have streamered the red course (finished last night). If you have more than one red I'd take whatever you have.
Jun 5, 2020 4:16 AM # 
@jeremy: Plz take a pic of the course map and e-mail it to me.

The last event HVO held there was on Saturday, April 18, 2015. There were both Red (5.63k, 220m, 15c) and Blue (6.43k, 240m, 18c) courses.
Jun 7, 2020 11:44 AM # 
Jun 8, 2020 12:36 AM # 
I ran the green at Eagle Rock this evening - its always challenging there - you get lulled into thinking its going to be super simple given the proximity to the city and the hoards of people picnicing on the grass near the start. No issue getting parking although it was busy. The big news is that unfortunately the rain has killed the memory o. The little maps got quite wet and its a shame because someone obviously put a lot of work into the course. My friend managed to find 7 controls on the memory o (not sure how). I struggled to find four without resorting to my Green map to see contour details and guess where the controls were (the circles have bled with the rain into the rest of the map).
Jun 8, 2020 12:38 AM # 
My short friend asked that if the memory O does get replaced if the strings could be longer. Not an issue for many but it is what it is.
Jun 8, 2020 4:43 AM # 
Plus tape over the maps so they are more resistant to moisture. (I can help)
Jun 8, 2020 10:54 AM # 
Unfortunately the maps were taped very well but the moisture got under the tape!
Jun 8, 2020 10:55 AM # 
Ok folks Guy found the red map for Tourne so if anyone fancies a run shoot me an email!
Jun 13, 2020 5:10 PM # 
Ran Blue at Ward Pound Ridge this morning. Running conditions in the woods are very good right now. A few people on the major trails, but not crowded, and plenty of available parking at the Trail Museum lot. Highly recommended. Thanks Geof.
Jun 13, 2020 6:24 PM # 
Ran red at Huntingdon this morning. Perfect conditions and very runnable forest. Will run red at WPR tomorrow morning since weather will be so superb.
Thank you!!
Jun 18, 2020 8:15 PM # 
Apologies if you ran red as one control (7/109) was missing. I have rehung flag in slightly different spot to avoid nasty cliffs and reposted map today (18th)
Jun 18, 2020 9:25 PM # 
Thanks, that explains it! I was puzzled as I really thought I was in the right place...
Jun 20, 2020 7:51 PM # 
There is now a Yellow course at WPR hung and posted. Suitable for beginners with some off trail experience.
Jun 20, 2020 11:47 PM # 
Also the red course at Tourne County Park is now streamered and available to run!
Jun 27, 2020 1:05 PM # 
just saw the note about 7, a bit too I printed the course a few weeks back.
Jul 4, 2020 3:23 PM # 
A new set of training courses at Huntington SP will be available starting from Monday July 6th. Course maps to be posted in the HVO dropbox the night before.

Start/Finish at the Dodgingtown Road parking lot:
- Red course 6.0km
- Green course 4.6km
- Brown course 3.3km

All maps are set to 7,500 scale when printed on letter sized paper. There are no control codes at the control flags. Enjoy the July 4th Independence Day!
Jul 6, 2020 2:33 AM # 
The new Huntington SP course maps and course notes are now posted and flags are out in the woods.
Jul 12, 2020 1:32 AM # 
More training courses.
Joe Brautigam has generously designed a Red and a Green course at Tarrywile Park in Danbury, CT. Flags are out in the woods and course maps will be posted shortly. Note the remote start and finish.

- Red course 6.4km - 10,000 scale at letter sized paper
- Green course 5.0km - 7,500 scale at letter sized paper

The course setter recommends to visit on a dry day as the rocks are super slick and there are many steep and rocky sections.
Jul 31, 2020 11:38 AM # 
This weekend is the last chance to run the courses at Ward Pound Ridge as they will be picked up next week.
Watch this space or for next (summer) training course.
Aug 2, 2020 1:33 AM # 
Thanks for putting them out. Really enjoyed them.
Aug 16, 2020 12:28 AM # 
Tarrywile red course report. There are a lot of downed trees, especially on the west side of the map. It mostly affects 7 and 10 on the red course (4 on green). The dot knoll at 7 is covered by the branches and leaves of large downed tree. If you look from the right angle you can see the flag under all the foliage. There were a lot of downed trees in the vicinity of 10. I don't think I was ever at the dot knoll, so I'm not sure if it's accessible or the flag is visible.

Otherwise, it was a very nice course! Thanks Joe.
Aug 16, 2020 2:41 AM # 
Last Sunday I did Huntington brown and green courses. There are trees down but nothing interfered with finding controls. There was a tree across the main trail near start/finish that I had to climb over 4 times on the 2 courses. Hopefully it was cleared this week.

Fun courses in beautiful woods.
Oct 3, 2020 2:32 PM # 
Tarrywile course is still open, but flags will be picked up after tomorrow. get out and enjoy the cooler temps. tree colors should present an additional challenge.
Oct 8, 2020 12:52 AM # 
Reminder that the streamers are still up at Tourne in NJ

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