Discussion: World Games 2022

World Games 2022 qual rules have been published

https://orienteering.sport/qualification-rules-for...

It appears that Canada's automatic full team qualification has been removed but it also appears that Canada can still get that full team qual if they are the top non-US NorAM country at WOC2021 forest relays. ;-)

oooooh that's a tough one

Sometimes diplomacy requires that different wording is required for the same end result. (The sharp-eyed will also have noticed that the document refers to Round 1 of the 2021 World Cup rather than the 2021 European Championships).

Forgive my ignorance but how many North American countries compete at WOC/WOK? Is the answer two (I assume that's the joke)?

It's not uncommon for there to be rumors that somebody is coming from another country, like Cuba, but so far it hasn't happened.

We did have some random guy from France show up a few years ago, and you might think that because of the location of St. Pierre and Miquelon, France could be considered to have a foothold in North America, but I think those islands are treated as part of Europe.

New Caledonia is having an independence vote aren't they tRicky? Australia would be worried they might lose a few Oceania places.

Why is that 'diplomatic' - it feels to me like someone is trying to hide something and thinks everyone is stupid enough not to notice. Why not just tell it like it is: Canada will get to have a full team. Stupid word games like that just tell us we can't expect the truth or transparency. I guess it does mean Canada has to at least send 3 men and 3 women to WoC21 to get a full team.

Wasn't Barbados an IOF member for a while quite recently?

I've only seen Barbadian orienteers once at the Canadian champs in 2013. Don't remember how they placed but they had pretty cool race kits.

Barbados, Cuba, Costa Rica and the Dominican Republic are IOF members, although none have ever sent anyone to WOC. The qualification process has to be seen to give all countries an equal chance even if we all know what the end result will be.

Here is a guy from Barbados in the WOC2016 sprint qual.

Haha nice, I remember chatting with that guy in the quarantine.

I thought there had been runners from Barbados at at least two WOCs?

If they were just in the qualification race were they really at WOC?

Ouch, guess the same could be asked of many US teams over the years.

Jamar Calliiste, beat ken at WOC in France....

Alabama in mid-summer...no snow on the ground...Canada has no chance.
This Barbados guy has what it takes...maybe IOF should give him a wild card

It's currently 32°C in Ottawa

Last summer we had a race in Ottawa while it was something like 38 degrees feeling like 46 worth humidex...

"The qualification process has to be seen to give all countries an equal chance"

But the chances aren't equal -Canada's chances are much better than everyone else's. Everyone can see that.

The expression 'justice must be seen to be done' means that when justice is done it must be public so everyone can see it has been done (ie no secret trials). It DOESN'T mean that when injustice is being it should be deliberately to spun to look as though justice was done. This feels like to me like a attempt to make it Look as though everyone has equal chance when clearly they don't. I'd almost call that a lie.

You are giving Canada a certain place in WG 22. That is a perfectly reasonable decision. It makes sense for both Canada and the US to have full teams this time - good for promotion of O in North American, will make it more interesting for local spectators to follow the US Can rivalry, etc etc. There is no need at all to try to cover that up Some countries might feel that is unfair and they may miss out because of it. Too bad. Qualification systems like this always have to fulfill competing objectives and that leads to some perceptions of 'unfairness'

It seems to me that by that wording it that way it makes a reasonable decision look unreasonable. Far better to just say Canada is getting a full team and that is being done in the interests of promotion of the sport, etc etc. Just tell the truth.

I know it was a while ago, but did Canada automatically get a bigger roster for WOC93?

If I recall correctly, yes. Although it was a very different system then.