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Discussion: OUSA Recommendations for Preventing SARS-CoV-2 Transmission at Events

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Jul 28, 2020 2:15 PM # 
OUSA:
Orienteering USA has approved the following recommendations for holding events in the new coronavirus era. These recommendations are required for OUSA sanctioned NRE events. Clubs holding local events are strongly encouraged to follow these recommendations as well, in conjunction with local, state & federal guidelines in place at the time of the event.

These guidelines will remain effective through December 31st, 2021 and will be updated by the OUSA Board as necessitated by the shifting realities of the pandemic. Please note that certain OUSA Rules of Competition are waived or otherwise modified for the duration of these guidelines.

Any additional suggestions for these guidelines should be directed to Joe Huberman, VP Club Services.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LufpnKQR01dCqSFQX...
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Jul 28, 2020 3:15 PM # 
barb:
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Jul 29, 2020 7:38 PM # 
Geoman:
Good job. These guidelines seem very thorough. The one weak spot seems to be washrooms/toilets. These facilities will contain multiple used surfaces that will not be safe. Maybe participants should be encouraged to bring their own portable toilets and hand washing devices.
Jul 29, 2020 8:56 PM # 
gordhun:
They certainly have done a thorough job.
I think there is a bit of overkill in there and there will be no national events happening while these regulations are in place. Who wants to go to all the trouble for 60 participants?
As for my club's local events we will be foregoing the public participation except by event volunteers and concentrating on safe events for JROTC, Boy and Girls Scouts, all of which can be done with pre-entries. That is if their authorities let them come.
The start grid will be very large with 2 m distancing between teams, presuming each team is its own 'bubble'.
Finish-Download-Done and Gone. No mass presentation of Awards and that is really too bad as that is the biggest part of the JROTC events.
Jul 30, 2020 2:04 AM # 
tdgood:
I still think Water should still be offered on the course and the finish, provided in individual separate bottles.
Jul 30, 2020 3:10 AM # 
jjcote:
It's not that big a deal to carry your own water. Standard practice in some countries.
Jul 30, 2020 4:48 AM # 
GuyO:
Maybe participants should be encouraged to bring their own portable toilets...

Joking, right?
Jul 30, 2020 12:50 PM # 
TheInvisibleLog:
I think hanging on should be recommended. Excellent for self-control.
Jul 30, 2020 4:50 PM # 
mikeminium:
There are relatively small and inexpensive camping toilets - the frame folds flat like a small folding chair; and when opened holds a disposable bag. Most people will probably choose a slightly increased risk for the convenience of using public facilities or portable toilets, but if you want extra safety, bringing your own is not all that difficult.
Jul 30, 2020 5:19 PM # 
rlindzon:
gordhun, presumably the idea behind the bubble is that if one person on a team is infected, they would infect only others on their team (like the Miami Marlins), but not the other teams, and there would be a record with contact information of everyone on a team. One weakness with MLB is that I understand they require coaches, etc., but not players, to wear masks in the dugout. However, MLB has the resources to get test results right away, which isn't the case for others in Florida.

With the possibility of the land border to the US remaining closed to non-essential travel at least through this fall, would you be looking to fly down?
Jul 31, 2020 2:11 AM # 
Geoman:
I own a portable chemical flushing toilet, a Thetford 365. It is lightweight, easy to use and easy to clean. Costs less than $100 on Amazon. Just set it down along the road or in a parking area, Throw a sheet over yourself when using.
Jul 31, 2020 1:44 PM # 
fossil:
Do you check it or do you bring it as carry-on?
Jul 31, 2020 3:04 PM # 
Geoman:
Haven’t tried it, but it is probably better to check it.
Jul 31, 2020 3:15 PM # 
gordhun:
rlindzon, I fear the US has two choice to get out of the mess they are in. 1) let things run wild, let and expect people to get the coronavirus, some to successfully build up immunity and some to die.
2) Do a hard two week shutdown of the country - or most of it- a reboot so to speak. Those who are in the process of getting sick will get sick and then build the immunity or die and those who are not sick -98% of the country will not be infected by those viruses which having nowhere to go, no host to find so will simply wither away.
The third choice - do nothing except stay on the current course will lead to months and months of the same.
So, will keeping schools in their own group/ bubble do any good? Yes it will on a statistical basis but it is not foolproof.
The risk of coming across someone who is active with the coronavirus when I was last in Florida was 1 in 10,000 each day. I don't know what the odds are now. But if we get back there we will not be pushing our luck.
Jul 31, 2020 3:21 PM # 
JanetT:
Articles have said that maybe 30% or more of the population has it but is asymptomatic, and since the US is only testing people with symptoms (and some others in certain locations or in the White House, for instance) they will not be found or traced.

Governments who have suppressed the virus had done random testing of populations, isolated the ones testing positive, and traced their contacts. If only we'd done that from the start....
Jul 31, 2020 4:08 PM # 
bmay:
Bathrooms: Hand Sanitizer before and after.

(And pee in the woods if it is possible to be reasonably discrete)
Jul 31, 2020 10:57 PM # 
jjcote:
When a man uses a porta potty to urinate, there's no need to touch anything in there but the door handle. And that's what old map cases are for.
Aug 1, 2020 3:31 AM # 
rlindzon:
gordhun, indicatiions so far are that immunity after being infected is generally very short-lived so 1 isn't going to do it. The effect of a vaccine could last longer, and even then Fauci is suggesting people may need to get vaccinated at least annually to maintain immunity.

Perhaps 2, but for somewhat longer than 2 weeks. For example, people who are asymptomatic infect others in their house and those others don't develop symptoms until after the 2 weeks. As a result of a weekend driving to Manhattan to bring my son back to Canada after expiry of his US work authorization, I just finished a 2-week quarantine on Sunday night. It went fine, with all my work being done remotely anyway. I used meal kit deliveries on Mon., Fri. and Wed., which did mean that I was relying on delivery people, people compiling the ingredients and packing the boxes, people producing the ingredients and shipping them, etc. For that to happen, none of those people can be locked down. One thing I realized about being in quarantine on my own is that there was no realistic chance of my getting infected during that period.

After some bungling early on, Ontario essentially just followed the CDC play book for reopening and so far it has worked (although in my view bars should be kept closed until after we see what happens when the schools reopen).
Aug 1, 2020 4:13 AM # 
yurets:
it is never going away...no immunity forms, no vaccine... every time you get it, the more severe it is likely to be. Each time it will do even more permanent damage to your system until it finally finishes you off.
Aug 1, 2020 9:55 AM # 
robplow:
" . . . and so far it has worked" I hope it has, but don't count on it.

A few weeks ago everyone in Melbourne (Australia not Florida), a city similar in size and density to Toronto, thought the same. Now they are in a second lockdown with figures worse than the first wave. Things can go bad again fast.
Aug 1, 2020 12:51 PM # 
jjcote:
And now that I think of it, the portable urinals that I saw at Jukola, where you don't go inside at all, seem pretty clever.

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