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Discussion: Bloody hell

in: OJ; OJ > 2020-09-04

Sep 5, 2020 8:54 PM # 
What’s wrong with knitting?
Sep 6, 2020 9:22 AM # 
I reckon it would take much longer to knit 30 trig points
Sep 6, 2020 9:28 AM # 
what is remarkable - for me at least - is that you do these straight off the bat, no particular prep, just ordinary mileage. You've clearly some real ability on the ultra front.
Sep 6, 2020 5:46 PM # 
Peter H:
Sep 6, 2020 6:44 PM # 
Sounds like some top notch willy waving. Kudos!

Kitch: some thinking around ultra training is now more around solid mileage without massive long runs as they can take too much out of you to too allow maintainance of consistency. E.g. for the Pennine Way records both John Kelly and Damien Hall's max length runs in preparation weren't much over 25 miles. It's how you utilise them (run the early part of the long run at tempo; add in surges; back it up with a mid-length run the next day) that gives the training benefit. I think.
Sep 7, 2020 7:32 AM # 
Sep 7, 2020 8:34 AM # 
It would take me longer to knit one trig.
Sep 7, 2020 10:30 AM # 
Nic, yeah - the Cardio vascular doesn't need that a vast amount of time / distance. metabolism maybe needs a lengthier time to adapt - though that can be done without huge runs either, if you go fasted for example. What I wonder about are the physical structural side of things - joints, bones, tendons, muscle connective tissue - maybe they don't need built up ? Is high mileage just wearing them down anyway so its best to restrict big hits to those big "event" runs ?
For sure a lot of (most?) folk would break if they suddenly went out on a 22 hour run of a background of 1, 2, 3 hours. I think you need to have great biomechanics for that not to be the case.
When I was doing ultra stuff for Rounds I didn't do vast mileage, but something long every 2 or 3 weeks with plenty rest in between and I seemed to thrive on that - I think I'd maybe do a couple of 8 hour runs, but those were mainly about experiencing what happens and building confidence.
Sep 7, 2020 3:53 PM # 
Andy, you're kind of implying Oli isn't now broken!
Sep 7, 2020 5:44 PM # 
lol, most would break during the run.
Sep 8, 2020 5:36 AM # 
Awesome, well done Oli. I’m intrigued by the ‘bog incident’...
Sep 18, 2020 2:40 PM # 
Nice one Oli you nutter!
Sep 19, 2020 4:58 PM # 
Bendover is alive !!! :-)

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