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Discussion: Cold in Tucson

in: Cristina; Cristina > 2021-01-27

Jan 29, 2021 9:07 PM # 
blairtrewin:
But it has had more snow this month than Fairbanks. (Somewhat to my surprise, this has happened before).
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Jan 29, 2021 9:19 PM # 
Cristina:
Nice. I do love it when it snows in the desert, especially since it goes away quickly.
Feb 5, 2021 3:33 PM # 
Ari-o:
FAI (well, PAFG) finished the month with 0.5" on 0.04" of melted precip (normal is 10.3, 0.58). Fun fact that FAI averages about an inch less precip than TUS (well, TWC), and actually the precip curves are quite similar, with a lull in the spring and an increase in the summer/fall monsoon (or whatever the monsoon equivalent is in Fairbanks).

It hit 35 in Fairbanks this January! That's warmer than the low in Tucson. Of course, the low in FAI was -27, and it was a warm month.

(Have I ever told you the story about hiking in a snowstorm in Tucson?)
Feb 5, 2021 3:47 PM # 
Cristina:
(No. Do tell.)
Feb 5, 2021 4:11 PM # 
jjcote:
The coldest Rogaine I ever did was in the Tucson area, south of town. It snowed the night before, and sports drink froze in the bottles we were carrying.
Feb 6, 2021 11:11 AM # 
Charlie:
Was that the one I did with John Potter? I don’t so much remember it being cold as just how muddy it got with the snow.
Feb 6, 2021 9:48 PM # 
jjcote:
Empire Ranch, March 1 1997. Don't remember if you were there with John or not. I was with Jim Baker, and we ran into trouble when he kicked a barrel cactus in the dark. He had to spend a bunch of time a bit later sitting down with his shoe off, trying to deal with a spine that had gotten under his toenail, and I was having trouble keeping warm when we weren't moving. Saturday afternoon/evening was actually quite pleasant, but the night got grim. My memory of the snow was that it was a big surprise Saturday morning, but it melted/evaporated pretty quickly.
Feb 7, 2021 4:53 AM # 
yurets:
A good period, those vicious Catalina snakes are less active, sleeping in their dens.
But all the ne'er do wells in the desert suffer from cold and seek warm hideouts
Feb 7, 2021 6:19 PM # 
jjcote:
There was a different Rogaine that Charlie and I did (separately) down in that area where the meet director warned us against talking to any smugglers we might encounter, be they smuggling people or drugs or whatever.
Feb 7, 2021 6:25 PM # 
Cristina:
Interesting warning. I've never heard of anyone actually encountering a smuggler out there. Lots of signs of people moving through the area (discarded clothes, not-at-all LNT campfires, etc) but I have to imagine that anyone out there does not exactly want to strike up a conversation.
Feb 7, 2021 6:38 PM # 
jjcote:
Nobody at that meet encountered any smugglers that I heard about, unsurprisingly. In particular he told us, "if you meet anybody with guns, don't buy anything from them".

Speaking of discarded clothing, the meet director worked at a high school, and at the end of the year, he said there would always be lots of practically new sneakers left behind in the locker room. He'd gather them up, match the pairs, and when he went hiking near the border he'd leave them next to the trails. He figured, the people sneaking in were probably going to be picked up and sent back to Mexico in short order, but at least maybe they could get a pair of running shoes out of the deal (to replace their sandals made out of old tires).
Feb 8, 2021 12:28 PM # 
Charlie:
I certainly remember that meet well. I think the “long” option was 12 hours, did it with John Maier. Started before dawn with javelinas scurrying around. John and I won the 12 hour, sweeping the course in about 10:30. We were rounding the big reservoir near the end and I was pretty dead. We got passed by Ron Hudson and his partner, who had pretty obviously gone to all the controls by then, too, and I couldn’t hold on, but then they took a straight route to the next control, down a rocky slope into a ravine below the dam, and we crossed on the dam instead and beat them in by 5 or 10 minutes. Very satisfying. John was a regular of the o scene back in the day. It’s been a really long time since I’ve seen him.
Feb 8, 2021 12:30 PM # 
Charlie:
As for the snow rogaine, John Potter’s dad lived in Tucson at the time and we borrowed his car. Really embarrassing to bring it back stained with mud, despite 3 trips through the car wash.

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