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Discussion: Zwift to Garmin but not to AP

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Jan 30, 2021 7:17 PM # 
I just started using Zwift which transfers its workouts to Garmin (and Strava). Activities I use my Forerunner for are still transferring but none of the Wahoo Kickr rides transfer.

Is there a filter on the data transfer..? Is it possible to automate this transfer?
Jan 31, 2021 3:26 AM # 
I have the same issue, have to download the files from Garmin then re-upload to AP. Why was in demand sync from Garmin removed?
Jan 31, 2021 12:12 PM # 
Garmin doesn't seem to forward activities that have been pushed into Garmin Connect from other services. I am looking at whether there is another way we can at least pull these activities.

The old sync method is not supported or allowed by Garmin.
Jan 31, 2021 1:15 PM # 
Tom O:
I use the Tacx app with my trainer. Tacx was purchased by Garmin in 2019 and the Tacx data imports directly to Garmin and Attackpoint.
Feb 2, 2021 12:33 AM # 
Thanks for the info. Looks like I missed out on a couple nice features with Tacx ( also trying to figure out simulated course from gps without buying anything else).

Maybe a Strava sync to AP would help?
Feb 2, 2021 2:11 AM # 
Tom O:
I didn't realize Tacx only works with Tacx trainers. I would think Garmin might eventually upgrade it so that it can be used with other trainers. I'm benefitting from a fully integrated system I guess.
Feb 2, 2021 7:57 PM # 
I have a garmin 235 and a tacx flux s trainer. Workouts appear on AP directly from the watch using the auto sync feature, on garmin connect from the watch, on Strava directly from Zwift and are also duplicated on Strava (with less info) from the watch, which I then delete.

I’ve had no disruptions and adding the transfer from Zwift was easy. And strangely I don't find any of this redundant. They’re all good at something that the others are not.
Feb 3, 2021 6:11 PM # 
Thanks, Super. I just used my Garmin Forerunner 920XT to read in the Wahoo data at the same time as Zwift.. power, heart rate, distance, cadence.

That transferred to AP and Garmin Connect but did not transfer to Strava (at least so far) which is perfect. I was thinking I would get duplicate on Strava.
Nov 17, 2021 12:47 PM # 
Data from Zwift should be coming via Garmin automatically now. This is a new import format so let me know if you notice anything weird.
Nov 17, 2021 3:06 PM # 
Nov 18, 2021 1:59 AM # 
It started to work! hadn't noticed anything abnormal, except that climb is different from what Zwift UI shows. But that is something in the way how Garmin re-calculates Zwift to real maps metrics.
Nov 18, 2021 5:14 AM # 
Strava, Garmin and AP always report different climb for me, sometimes wildly different (+50% is not unusual for AP).
Nov 18, 2021 1:08 PM # 
With AP you can see how the climb is calculated if you want. In the map view choose one of the "auto splits: climb" options, the laps will be the high/low points that count, with bumps smaller than the threshold being ignored.

In general AP uses the 5m or 10m result for the entry depending on whether your device has a barometer. Zwift imports have been using 10 but I should probably change that to 5.
Nov 19, 2021 1:51 PM # 
Very nice, thank you Ken!

Regarding the climb calculation: my recent ride gave the following

Zwift: 213m
Strava: 212m
Attackpoint: 66m
calculated from gpx export (summing all positive delta in elevation): 210m
Nov 19, 2021 4:59 PM # 
I hadn’t even notice the “auto splits climb” option so that’s good to know. Still, I seem to get much lower totals on AP even on long climbs that don’t seem to have a lot of fine scale ups and downs. The low AP numbers are beginning to affect my self-esteem. I’ll start checking the auto splits data to perhaps sort this out for myself.
Nov 19, 2021 5:25 PM # 
Where you you do any climbing in Texas?
Nov 19, 2021 9:14 PM # 
In Dallas there is only one hill. In Austin there are two hills. We go up'em and down'em many times to collect needed climb meters, shooting our pistols and shouting "Yee'ha! Get along little doggy!" Ironically, we do that while wearing masks and bandanas like the cowboys and outlaws of by gone days. If that is your cup of joe, then in Austin you can do the Tour Das Hugel and over 113 miles collect upwards of 13k cowboy boots of climb.
May 9, 2022 10:17 PM # 
Is there an issue with the Garmin/AP synch at the moment? I did a Zwift session this morning and it's pushed through to both Strava and GC but not to AP.
May 11, 2022 12:58 PM # 
I've just had this issue - two days running.... any answers? Thanks.
May 11, 2022 1:23 PM # 
Garmin to AP updated fine for me last night. But there was no Zwift involved (whatever that is).
May 11, 2022 1:43 PM # 
Garmin updates fine jj, it's Zwift that's the issue for some reason (even though it pushes through to both Garmin and Strava). It's also happened to me two days in a row now.
May 11, 2022 3:07 PM # 
Yeah it seems like we are just not receiving Zwift data anymore. Looking into it...
May 11, 2022 3:20 PM # 
Thanks Ken (also via email) - excellent customer service, as ever. :)
May 11, 2022 9:20 PM # 
I've heard directly from Garmin that it was a bug that we could previously receive Zwift data, the bug was "fixed" on Monday, and there will be no more Zwift data via GC. I'd guess this is related to data laws.

I recall that some people were previously able to push from Zwift > RunGap > GC > AP, I am curious whether that has stopped working as well.

Working on other options. Thanks in advance for your patience, you'll need to import manually until I get something working.

* fixed the glitch :)
May 11, 2022 11:27 PM # 
Sounds like another 'bug' that was fixed recently, the Running Challenges add on that used to let you see what parkrun challenges you had completed. Except Firefox and Chrome decided to no longer support a whole lot of add ons that used to be supported so they somehow made them not work anymore.
May 18, 2022 11:53 AM # 
Yeah, same with Wahoo SYSTM syncs to GC not being pushed on to AP. That's GDPR for you :-(

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