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Discussion: Cake

in: Becks; Becks > 2021-02-14

Feb 15, 2021 7:30 AM # 
acjospe:
Why is that? Is it the butter? Is it nostalgia? Different recipes?
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Feb 15, 2021 12:59 PM # 
Kitch:
butter rather than oil if muffins are anything to go by
Feb 15, 2021 2:22 PM # 
Becks:
I actually don’t know. Dad used his standard home cake recipe last year when they came to visit with US ingredients and it was fine but not as delicious as at home. Different fat I think (he uses a special baking margarine I haven’t managed to find a good equivalent for), different size grind of sugar (generally bigger grind in US versus UK), different flour. So probably ingredient differences, bearing in mind I don’t really bake so I haven’t investigated all avenues thoroughly. Then the recipes are different too. Cakes are denser and less sweet.
Feb 15, 2021 5:12 PM # 
khall:
I miss caster sugar. You can get it here (superfine), but not in decent quantities. I think US does chocolate chip cookies better though.
Feb 15, 2021 5:34 PM # 
eddie:
The first I heard of caster sugar was on the Great British Baking Show. They use tons of it. It's interesting to see the different ingredients that are common there and uncommon here. Golden syrup, Crème fraîche, a few other things. Not that these can't be had or substituted with close matches.

I rarely make choc chip cookies but I happened to make a batch yesterday with some frozen chips leftover from Christmas baking. I used margarine rather than butter - almost never have real butter around the house. The bake is fine but the taste is off. I think the stick margarine was in the fridge too long. This pandemic baking has been a real substitution stretch. I find when I'm at the end of a grocery-phase and run out of ready snacks I start to bake things using dribs and drabs of whatever is left in the cupboard or fridge. Mostly that's bad, but I've noticed that scratch southern biscuits are better with re-constituted evaporated milk rather than the skim milk I normally use. Taste is the same but the rise is better. Its almost certainly the extra fat. Been buying canned evap milk on purpose lately to extend time between grocery runs. Wishing for milk bottle delivery...

Is York famous for any specific sweets?
Feb 15, 2021 6:06 PM # 
eddie:
Maybe British cake is better because it's baked at metric temperatures :)
Feb 15, 2021 7:24 PM # 
feet:
@eddie: just a *few* kinds of chocolate you might have heard of come from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rowntree%27s
Feb 16, 2021 2:44 PM # 
JennyJ:
Terry's of York too - Chocolate Orange!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry%27s
Feb 16, 2021 2:59 PM # 
Becks:
@eddie - the whole village smells delicious when the wind is blowing in the right direction!
Feb 16, 2021 3:57 PM # 
eddie:
Mmmm, land of chocolate. (drooling) aggghhhhhh........

Santa Claus used to leave a Droste chocolate apple in our stockings back in the old days. Looked similar to the Terry's orange, but was just plain dark chocolate. Apparently not made anymore. Seems like Kraft, Nestle and Hershey's own alot of the original small-maker products or at least the rights to make U.S. versions of them. My neighbor likes to buy Kit Kats in her native Ireland which I presume are made by Nestle there now. I always liked the Hersheys version. Interesting to see that Smarties came from Rowntree too. I only know those via Canada. In the US "smarties" are compressed powdered sugar candies that come in a small roll, like sweet-tarts.
Feb 18, 2021 1:41 PM # 
acjospe:
I have noticed a distinct difference in the taste of US butter vs anything in Europe. As Neil put it once, what do you do to your cows? And the answer isn't a pretty one. The local fancy butters do taste better.

I admit cake is at the bottom of my dessert priorities, as I'd much rather have a cookie or bar or pie or something frozen. But I can get behind dense cakes, had a delicious mini cake last week that was soaked in cardamom syrup with a hard icing on top, mmm.
Feb 18, 2021 2:27 PM # 
Becks:
I'm pretty sure cake is at the bottom of your dessert priorities because you're not used to eating good cake :)
Feb 19, 2021 12:44 PM # 
Kitch:
Is a twinkie a cake ? - because they are ****ing disgusting.
Feb 19, 2021 3:12 PM # 
Becks:
No and 100% agree.
Feb 19, 2021 5:33 PM # 
acjospe:
I suppose a twinkie would qualify as cake, in terms of dessert hierarchy. Don't know that I've eaten any of those, because they scare me. But I've eaten other Little Debbie brand desserts, and they're hardly high cuisine!
Feb 19, 2021 5:49 PM # 
Cristina:
As an American child of the 80s, I grew up with Twinkies as a special treat and found them delicious, but not in a real dessert kind of way. They do seem to be "cake". If offered one at this point in my life I would decline, but that's not really saying much, since I also decline the vast majority of my mother's expertly created real desserts. I suspect Alex would enjoy most of those desserts.
Feb 19, 2021 10:41 PM # 
Suzanne:
I find most American chocolate to be more “brown” than chocolate, especially when in cake form (and ice cream, and bars, and especially hot chocolate). I do like Swedish kladkakka (spelling)?.
Feb 20, 2021 12:19 AM # 
JanetT:
I just saw kladdkaka (I think) on someone else's FB page, and bookmarked a recipe for it...looks delicious! As a chocolate lover I'd make it at least once.

Growing up in the Philadelphia suburbs we had the Tastycake desserts as treats, which are the local version of Twinkies. At the time my favorites were butterscotch krimpets and a couple flavors of their handheld pies. They do not taste the same as I remembered.
Feb 20, 2021 1:19 AM # 
PG:
I can remember only one time when a Twinkie was offered to me, and it was fabulous. Just have to have the right circumstances. :-)

From my log, reminiscing about riding the Mount Greylock Century --

On that day, maybe 15 years ago, I'd been totally wasted by the time I hit an aid station around 80 miles. Sat down, got something to drink, looked around for something to eat. There was a Twinkie. Inhaled it. Awesome. There was another Twinkie. Inhaled it too. Even more awesome. Waited a few minutes for the sugar and fat and caffeine to start pumping through my arteries and then headed off to finish things up. 100 miles, 9,800' climb.
Feb 21, 2021 10:29 AM # 
ndobbs:
Came to this late, but it put a smile on my face.

Place overdoing cinnamon to destroy apple tart/pie irritated me. Some apples have flavour (even here, could recently get good quality Elstar apples in the supermarket, a joy to eat).

The Irish equivalents to Twinkies would certainly be vile.

I definitely had many wonderful desserts in the US. Superstars weekend would be one occasion.
Feb 21, 2021 4:07 PM # 
yurets:
Moon pie is the best.

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