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Discussion: Frozen Head State Park Maps?

in: Orienteering; General

Feb 16, 2021 1:13 AM # 
Hey community, I might possibly be doing a little event in Frozen Head State Park, Tennessee next month. It's a navigation and ultrarunning event that one might approach from an orienteering mindset.
Does anyone know if Frozen Head State Park has been mapped and/or if there is a local club near Knoxville that would have resources?
Feb 16, 2021 2:37 AM # 
Barkley Marathon?
Feb 16, 2021 3:03 AM # 
If my employer approves, yes
Feb 16, 2021 4:56 PM # 
The park map looks almost good enough to use for a rogaine, especially since you can get it geo-referenced. Has there ever been an orienteering club in Tennessee?
Feb 16, 2021 5:42 PM # 
Western North Carolina Orienteering held an event in Johnson City, TN a few years back.
Feb 16, 2021 6:11 PM # 
I assume you know what you are in for....there a few people on here who have survived it.
Feb 16, 2021 6:37 PM # 
Long ago, there was enough of an orienteering club in Tennessee that there was an A-meet in the state. Much later, there was a woman who had gotten enthusiastically into orienteering (Meg Garrett?) who moved to TN and said she'd be starting a club there, but AFAIK she was never heard from again. Maybe the saw briers got her.

There is no O-map of Frozen Head, but there are various Barkley maps online based on USGS that look decent.
Feb 16, 2021 9:28 PM # 
The park map with 20 foot contours is good enough. I have toyed with the idea of grabbing the lidar and kartapullautin but it's not worth the effort. A couple of laps is pretty easy, gets a bit harder after that.
Feb 16, 2021 10:40 PM # 
Love that HidingControls is part of the BM lore!

See this article, which includes a mention of MB (HidingControls)...

If you are looking for good reads, almost all articles about the BM are good, or even better.
Feb 16, 2021 11:09 PM # 
Also, if you've got time, there is this documentary about Gary Robbins's experience at the BM which is definitely worth a watch. I believe Gary is a member of one of the Canadian O clubs as well?
Feb 16, 2021 11:42 PM # 
Barkley is definitely a running race with a defined course and course markings and you're told exactly where the books are. It's pretty easy to get around. Nav is about the level expected by a competent 14 year old :D
Feb 21, 2021 11:12 PM # 
Mr Wonderful:
CalTopo works well for seamless USGS
Feb 22, 2021 3:41 PM # 
Gary Robbins is a former adventure racer who has done a number of O events in the Vancouver area to improve his nav skills for the Barkley. Agree - great film. I also recommend this one.
Feb 24, 2021 3:00 PM # 
No club in Knoxville so the closest club would be WNOC run by Chris Gkikas. Chris also runs a side mapping company and he has made some maps in Eastern TN. I am not sure if he did any work at Frozen Head as that is about 3 hours away from Ashville, NC.
Mar 18, 2021 9:53 PM # 
Barkley Marathons started at 3:04AM EDT this morning. No press allowed this year, best update source looks like Goooo Nicolay!! Out on loop 2. Apparently pretty rainy.
Mar 19, 2021 3:20 AM # 
It's down to 10 runners including Nicolay. Three of the remaining runners are women: the incomparable Courtney Dauwalter, Big's Backyard Ultra winner Maggie Guterl and elite ultrarunner Liz Canty.
Mar 19, 2021 11:25 AM # 
Nicolay and three others dropped out on loop two. Only two runners (Jared Campbell and Luke Nelson) went out on loop three; four others (including the three women) missed the time cutoff (the women were 12 minutes over at 26:52, but if they had been 12 minutes faster they would have had to start loop three with no break). Fog is said to have been a major issue.
Mar 19, 2021 11:42 AM # 
Yup, looks like brutal weather this year. Three-time finisher Jared Campbell coming in at 24:32:34 for lap 2 speaks volumes. I'll bet he and Luke Nelson get the Fun Run, but wow. Further reading.
Mar 19, 2021 7:56 PM # 
If I understand the tweet correctly, I think the last two bailed out partway through loop 3.

Nope, I misread it. They finished loop three slightly over 39 hours, fast enough for an official Fun Run result but too late (by three hours) to go out on a fourth loop.

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