Discussion: great job
in: IMHungry; IMHungry > 2008-02-24
Feb 25, 2008 5:37 PM
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Zin:
You did REALLY well.
Taper usually comes with water gain weight - water binds to carbohydrate.
"Every gram of glycogen is stored with almost three grams of water, which can result in a gain of up to five pounds"
http://www.humankinetics.com/products/showexcerpt....
To take 10 minutes off this result - is totally within realm of reason.
You had a good result. You were disciplined with pacing, which seems to be hard for many guys to manage - so, to do this in a first race is a very good sign.
The Vdot measurement kind of approximates your estimated VO2 max. A first running race is probably not the most accurate measurement, and probably will be less than the truth. However, with your Vdot and your weight, it looks like your ABSOLUTE VO2max (which has to do with size, as well) is probably well over 4L/min.
http://www.runnersweb.com/running/RunnersWeb_Exter...
So, this bodes REALLY well for ironman. For running, the relative VO2max is more relevant. However, for cycling, the abosolute VO2max is more important for cycling on the flats (the majority of an IM course). For climbing, the relative VO2max becomes more important again. Having said that, though - I suspect that your legs are the way they are because you were born with a good measure of fast twitch muscle fibers. If you train hills, you can tap into these - and with continued training, you convert some of the fast twitch into a more aerobic type of fiber.
Ironman has to do with taking what you have and trying to spin it into an advantage.
But, I see some very good signs, here.
Taper usually comes with water gain weight - water binds to carbohydrate.
"Every gram of glycogen is stored with almost three grams of water, which can result in a gain of up to five pounds"
http://www.humankinetics.com/products/showexcerpt....
To take 10 minutes off this result - is totally within realm of reason.
You had a good result. You were disciplined with pacing, which seems to be hard for many guys to manage - so, to do this in a first race is a very good sign.
The Vdot measurement kind of approximates your estimated VO2 max. A first running race is probably not the most accurate measurement, and probably will be less than the truth. However, with your Vdot and your weight, it looks like your ABSOLUTE VO2max (which has to do with size, as well) is probably well over 4L/min.
http://www.runnersweb.com/running/RunnersWeb_Exter...
So, this bodes REALLY well for ironman. For running, the relative VO2max is more relevant. However, for cycling, the abosolute VO2max is more important for cycling on the flats (the majority of an IM course). For climbing, the relative VO2max becomes more important again. Having said that, though - I suspect that your legs are the way they are because you were born with a good measure of fast twitch muscle fibers. If you train hills, you can tap into these - and with continued training, you convert some of the fast twitch into a more aerobic type of fiber.
Ironman has to do with taking what you have and trying to spin it into an advantage.
But, I see some very good signs, here.
Feb 25, 2008 6:17 PM
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Cheers, man!
Another way to avoid some of the thigh adduction distress is to remove some sand out of the ol' tight spot. That will easily drop your time another 10 mins.
Other than that, I'm very impressed!
Another way to avoid some of the thigh adduction distress is to remove some sand out of the ol' tight spot. That will easily drop your time another 10 mins.
Other than that, I'm very impressed!
Feb 25, 2008 10:00 PM
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oo, oo, TriAR tell me more. I thought the Vdot thing was saying that I had abysmally low VO2max, like one of those flat raccoons you see sleeping on the side of the road.
Flatrax, are you talking about lint in the belly button?
Flatrax, are you talking about lint in the belly button?
Feb 25, 2008 10:26 PM
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Zin:
ha ha! In all the training books, they make it sound like a person has to have 70 mL/kg/min to be any good at endurance sports. However, people with such high relative VO2 maxes are top level elites who are generally really scrawny.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2489848
I've read a lot of elite male triathletes are more like 60-70, and they usually weigh in the 75kg range - so they would have VO2 absolutes of just under 5L/min.
I think a lot of good age group men are probably more like 50-60.
And, anyways, VO2 max is really only part of the puzzle.
But, if you have 4+ L/min of absolute, then that's a lot of potential power you can put to the bike wheels.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2489848
I've read a lot of elite male triathletes are more like 60-70, and they usually weigh in the 75kg range - so they would have VO2 absolutes of just under 5L/min.
I think a lot of good age group men are probably more like 50-60.
And, anyways, VO2 max is really only part of the puzzle.
But, if you have 4+ L/min of absolute, then that's a lot of potential power you can put to the bike wheels.
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