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Discussion: Maps!

in: Nev-Monster; Nev-Monster > 2024-01-26

Jan 28, 2024 3:36 PM # 
Bash:
We found a lot of them in OOA’s long lost file boxes. Matt had access to a large scanner and created an online folder of old maps. It would be great to add some of yours to OOA’s online collection!
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Jan 28, 2024 5:39 PM # 
Nev-Monster:
I was hoping someone would have a suggestion like that!
And I think Matt actually went to the library to scan a bunch of them, I might have a big scanner at work (although the designer types might not let me use it).
Jan 28, 2024 7:54 PM # 
AndrewM:
Is the online collection available to view anywhere?
Jan 28, 2024 8:56 PM # 
Nev-Monster:
I think so, Andrew: will connect you with Matt.
Jan 29, 2024 3:01 AM # 
AndrewM:
Cool, thanks
Jan 29, 2024 5:53 AM # 
Bash:
Yes, Matt scanned them at the library (our hero!) He suggested putting them on the Maps page on the OOA website.
https://www.orienteeringontario.ca/maps

That's a great idea but because many of the maps belong to clubs, the decision was put on hold temporarily. The maps are in a folder on OOA's Google Drive now so maybe it could be shared with club reps (and Andrew!) to make sure they're OK with sharing them publicly with some wording about copyright. Almost all the maps were from the 1980s and probably wouldn't be of huge value to anyone outside of OOA clubs, so they'll probably be fine with it but it's fair to ask. There may be some exceptions. Some of the maps belonged to OOA in the 1980s and got transferred to clubs later on.
Jan 29, 2024 8:37 AM # 
Hammer:
Are the maps that were scanned the ones on the OO google maps database? I should dig out my map collection and add to this. i think somewhere i have the official list of all maps made up to the mid 80s.

Eventually i want to have my non race maps scanned so I can reduce the number of boxes i have in storage. about 5-6 banker boxes of maps (mostly international).

One thing that is a side effect of the print on demand race maps is that the art of map art layout has declined. Many times maps look unfinished and little effort given to the overall “look”.
Jan 29, 2024 10:55 AM # 
bubo:
In Sweden you can find many maps at Omaps.net. Very often maps are available at high resolution which is nice. If you want a printed map there is a price but printing for private use is often free.
Jan 29, 2024 1:07 PM # 
Bash:
>>Are the maps that were scanned the ones on the OO google maps database?

The OOA Google Map shows the names and locations of maps in the OOA Map Registry. Those are maps that clubs have registered with OOA and there are rules and processes around them to protect clubs and encourage map use and updates. OOA doesn’t currently request copies of the maps.

Matt scanned the paper maps that Laura and I found in the boxes from the old OOA office - most of them from the 1980s and early 1990s. Many of those areas are registered to clubs now (and thus appear on the Google Map) but they have usually been updated or have fallen into disuse for various reasons.
Jan 29, 2024 5:36 PM # 
AndrewM:
Most of the maps on the drive were also posted on this thread: http://www.attackpoint.org/discussionthread.jsp/me...
However, there's a number of them that are only in the thread or only in the drive.
Jan 29, 2024 7:47 PM # 
Bash:
That thread attracted attention and concern from the Archives of Ontario when OOA was trying to convince them to store OOA's records in the Archives! There was no issue. The old OOA office was at Klepperton's Dad's house. As a keen orienteer and mapper, Klepperton scanned some of the maps before the file boxes were returned to OOA. They are available online but not easily found, so clubs wouldn't worry about them.

For sure, it's fine for someone known like Andrew to have access to the old maps. The question is whether clubs are comfortable with making all those maps available to the general public or whether there might be some exceptions. In the past, at least one well-known O map was "borrowed" by a commercial map company who made maps and sold them, so there is some legitimate sensitivity about copyright.

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