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in: PeterM; PeterM > 2024-03-07

Mar 7, 2024 10:56 AM # 
Big Jon:
!!! £1m is enough to live on for the rest of your life - anything else is pure bravado...
Mar 7, 2024 11:14 AM # 
jonny crickmore:
Pay the other runner to lose. The statement implies the consequences only affect you and so splitting the money is a win-win.
Repeat until the idiot donor is bankrupt.
Mar 7, 2024 11:37 AM # 
Mar 7, 2024 2:31 PM # 
Let's say 1% of the US population is faster than me, and I'm willing to take a 25% chance of dying. In that case 28 times. Hope you had a discussion like that!
Mar 7, 2024 4:07 PM # 
Doesn't that imply your willingness to die is independent of the money in this game? i.e. you just go through life willing to die 25% of the time. Makes the maths easier I guess...
Mar 7, 2024 4:09 PM # 
Also agree with Jon, once. Unless they are playing for the same prizes, in which case zero times because it's actually a fight to the death not a mile race, and they statistically have 1.2 more firearms than I do.
Mar 7, 2024 5:51 PM # 
All very interesting responses. Based off our rough estimation of there being around 5000 people quicker than us, we reckoned we were therefore in the top 0.000015% of the US population. Which technically means you could be sure to run it literally thousands of times and not die. So either billionaire status or death awaits...
Mar 7, 2024 6:19 PM # 
Very odd definition of "sure"
Mar 7, 2024 6:24 PM # 
Are you sure about that James?
Mar 7, 2024 6:44 PM # 
What mile time are you working with?
Mar 7, 2024 7:02 PM # 
~4.15-4.20 based off current form
Mar 7, 2024 7:21 PM # 
What's the incentive to make your randomly-selected opponent actually run as hard as they can? As by definition they are almost certain to lose anyway? I feel like the "or death" option needs a bit more weight behind it.
Mar 7, 2024 8:14 PM # 
If you can’t run quicker than 4:15 off current form, you need to have a long hard look in the mirror… and also some speed work
Mar 7, 2024 8:19 PM # 
I'm not backing him to break 4:15 for his thousandth consecutive mile race (assuming he didn't accidentally draw Yared yet)
Mar 7, 2024 8:51 PM # 
That’s maybe a better question, you running continuously versus randomly selected Americans in a relay, and a million is way too much because, as Jon said, do it once and retire
Mar 7, 2024 9:28 PM # 
Yeah the relay is an interesting one. Money aside - I wonder how long you could go on for continuously?
Mar 7, 2024 9:34 PM # 
Just try not to get Yared Nuguse in the first round
Mar 8, 2024 6:54 AM # 
Yeah - based on these responses only Dan is surviving that one.
Mar 8, 2024 11:45 AM # 
My inner Taskmaster is telling me that as the rules don't mention draws or no contests, then we can assume nothing would happen, so I just need to make sure Nuguse doesn't finish. DNF and DSQ is the only way any of us are getting out of that one.

P.S. forgot Jonny had spotted these loopholes.
Mar 8, 2024 1:48 PM # 
paulp :
A more definite (and morbid) extended version of the question: You're given (e.g.) £100,000 a year until the time when you can't run a mile faster than (e.g.) 5.00 . What's the smallest money / fastest time option that you would accept?
Mar 8, 2024 2:59 PM # 
I reckon I back myself at 20 years on £100k per year at 5 minute miles. If the consequence of failure is death then that would be excellent training motivation.
And yes, two-footing Nuguse may seem wise at this point.
Mar 8, 2024 4:07 PM # 
Tough day when you get your terminal calf strain diagnosis
Mar 8, 2024 4:35 PM # 
paulp :
I think the rules would be you can run the mile at any time in the year, or you get a rather unhappy New Year.
The mile world record hits 5 minutes somewhere between 70 and 75. Assuming that I'm not a world record holder, that probably means looking at death in my 60s, which I'm not keen on.
On the other hand, put the time limit up to 6:00 (death in mid 70s) and drop to £50,000 and I reckon it's a solid deal
Mar 8, 2024 6:19 PM # 
You know you back out without dying so long as you don’t attempt it in that year?
Mar 8, 2024 6:40 PM # 
paulp :
nah, it's sign up now and die the year you don't do it
Mar 8, 2024 7:21 PM # 
Yeah, that’s not very William Wallace of you
Mar 8, 2024 10:45 PM # 
I get it now. Sign up till you die is a much better rule.
Mar 9, 2024 7:13 PM # 
None. Its one of those conundrums that gets easier with age and infirmity.
Mar 9, 2024 7:45 PM # 
paulp :
it's a conundrum that varies depending if you're part of the 'I can't buy a house because of avocado toast' generation
Mar 9, 2024 9:14 PM # 
How about a randomly selected American in your age class?
Mar 9, 2024 11:36 PM # 
Reckon that's terrible news for the odds of everyone involved in this thread

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