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Discussion: Heat

in: Spike; Spike > 2024-05-27

May 27, 2024 10:58 PM # 
igoup:
I'm definitely in acclimation mode. I'll build up some resilience but guys who grew up in TX definitely fair much better than I, both now and throughout the summer.
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May 28, 2024 6:46 PM # 
Spike:
I suppose it might make sense to try to do more exercise in the heat to get acclimatized. I've never felt good when it is hot. But maybe I could feel less terrible.
May 29, 2024 12:48 AM # 
Cristina:
Don't know if you two have Garmin watches, but it seems Garmin Connect has a Heat Acclimation score. "To trend up, train outdoors at temperatures of 72F or higher. Your training status is automatically adjusted for changes in temperature." I've been doing such a good job staying out of the heat that I have a low heat acclimation, but it shouldn't be hard for any of us to get that to 100% this time of year... I know I feel better in the heat later in the summer, curious to see how well that aligns with this value.
May 29, 2024 1:27 AM # 
igoup:
My Garmin is a bit of an a$$. After busting my butt for days it says things like, "You are 0.5% heat acclimated." Or a week after getting home from elevation, "You are now acclimated to the altitude." Or after a hard effort, "You need 512 hours of recovery." Or after hours into a long ride with still some work to go, "Your virtual training partner has finished."
May 29, 2024 2:18 AM # 
maprunner:
My Garmin doesn’t have heat acclimation. But I just found out it has estimated sweat loss. No idea what I will do with that info
May 29, 2024 3:12 AM # 
Cristina:
igoup, mine tells me I get 10 hours of sleep every night and am always well rested and ready to take on the world, so I guess I’m lucky that it’s wrong in an overly optimistic way instead of in an asshole way.

I didn’t realize the heat acclimation metric depended on the type of watch! I didn’t know it was a thing when I got my new one, just discovered it five months later.
May 29, 2024 2:45 PM # 
Spike:
I should talk to some of my Garmin-employee friends and suggest they develop different personalities for their watches.
May 29, 2024 3:37 PM # 
Pink Socks:
I should talk to some of my Garmin-employee friends and suggest they develop different personalities for their watches.

Is Garmin ever going to include orienteering as an activity? Or has that hope been long dead? That's what I've been assuming, anyway.

Garmin and Strava seem to be in an arms race of adding more and more activities, but neither of them has added orienteering. You know you're an irrelevant sport when you can't Garmin or Strava to acknowledge that you exist.
May 29, 2024 5:16 PM # 
jjcote:
I was at least able to create a custom set of display fields for my Garmin watch called "Orientering" that shows me only the stuff I care about when I'm running around looking for controls.
May 29, 2024 7:41 PM # 
Pink Socks:
Yes. I just really want orienteering to get the recognition. I want the likes, lol.
May 29, 2024 7:51 PM # 
Pink Socks:
Here are all of the profiles that Garmin has, which you can select in Garmin Connect or on your watch, depending on device:

GYM
Strength, HIIT, Cardio, Elliptical Training, Stair Stepping, Floor Climbing, Indoor Rowing, Jump Roping

MULTISPORT
Swimming/Running, Triathlon

WELLNESS
Walking, Pilates, Yoga

INDOOR RUNNING
Treadmill Running, Indoor Track Running, Virtual Running

OUTDOOR RUNNING
Running, Outdoor Track Running, Trail Running, Ultra Running, Obstacle Racing

OUTDOOR RECREATION
Hiking, Indoor Climbing, Bouldering, Climbing, Hunting, Horseback Riding, Golfing, Disc Golf, Archery

CYCLING
Biking, Road Biking, Mountain Biking, Gravel Biking, Bike Commuting, Bike Touring, eBiking, eMountain Biking, Indoor Biking, Cyclocross, BMX

SWIM
Pool Swimming, Open Water Swimming

ON THE WATER
Stand Up Paddleboarding, Rowing, Kayaking, Surfing, Kiteboarding, Windsurfing, Fishing, Boating, Sailing, Sail Racing, Water Skiing, Wakeboarding, Wakesurfing, Tubing, Snorkeling, Sailing Expedition, Whitewater

MOTOR SPORTS
Motorcycling, Overlanding, Motocrossing, ATVing, Snowmobiling

RACKET SPORTS
Tennis, Pickleball, Badminton, Squash, Table Tennis, Padel, Platform Tennis, Racquetball

SNOW & WINTER
Skiing, Snowboarding, Backcountry Snowboarding, XC Classic Skiing, XC Skate Skiing, Backcountry Skiing, Ice Skating, Snowshoeing

TEAM SPORTS
Basketball, Volleyball, Field Hockey, Ice Hockey, Football/Soccer, American Football, Lacrosse, Rugby, Ultimate Disc, Cricket, Softball, Baseball

IN THE RING
Boxing, Mixed Martial Arts

OTHER ACTIVITY PROFILES
Jumpmaster, Tactical, Inline Skating
May 29, 2024 7:54 PM # 
Pink Socks:
And here's Strava's list:

Foot Sports
Run
Trail Run
Walk
Hike
Virtual Run

Cycle Sports
Ride
Mountain Bike Ride
Gravel Ride
E-Bike Ride
E-Mountain Bike Ride
Velomobile
Virtual Ride

Water Sports
Canoe
Kayak
Kitesurf
Rowing
Stand Up Paddling
Surf
Swim
Windsurf

Winter Sports
Ice Skate
Alpine Ski
Backcountry Ski
Nordic Ski
Snowboard
Snowshoe

Other Sports:
Handcycle
Inline Skate
Rock Climb
Roller Ski
Golf
Skateboard
Football (Soccer)
Wheelchair
Badminton
Tennis
Pickleball
Crossfit
Elliptical
Stair Stepper
Weight Training
Yoga
Workout
HIIT
Pilates
Table Tennis
Squash
Racquetball
May 29, 2024 9:07 PM # 
peggyd:
What may a virtual run be, pray tell? I mean, I've done a lot of virtual races, but I actually run them.
Maybe a virtual run is orienteering ... ;-)
May 29, 2024 11:22 PM # 
jjcote:
Do you really expect orienteering to rank up there with Floor Climbing, Fishing, Tubing or Motorsports?

(Interesting that hang gliding, paragliding, and other aerial stuff isn't on there, either.)
May 30, 2024 4:35 PM # 
Pink Socks:
I think the thing that gets me is that orienteers have been using wearable GPS tech since basically its inception, and that Garmin has historically been the market leader in that domain.

It's not like we're a niche sport that doesn't heavily use GPS devices; we're a niche sport with a lot of GPS use over the last 20 years. And Garmin's response to this super dedicated, but admittedly small, market has always been "meh".
May 30, 2024 6:36 PM # 
Spike:
We even used Garmin GPS units BEFORE they were wearable! PTOC had an event at the Prairie Center in Olathe. The course was programmed in to Garmin GPS units that were maybe 8 x 10 x 2 inches (and priced over $1000). Paul Shumaker (one of the original engineers when Garmin was founded) had about a dozen of these units. We ran around with a blank map and the Garmin and did a course. The GPS unit had a little LCD screen. If I remember right it gave you a distance and direction to the next control.

I wonder if the Garmin sports include orienteering in the Swedish or Finnish language versions.
May 30, 2024 11:49 PM # 
Pink Socks:
If one of Garmin's original engineers was an orienteer and orienteering can't become an official activity, I guess there's no hope.

(Also, one of Garmin's original interns became an orienteer later).

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