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in: fthfl stwrd rudy; fthfl stwrd rudy > 2008-05-10;

#  Posted 2008-05-11 07:49:33
Yukon King: sounds like you are doing good, I am glad. keep it up!

#  Posted 2008-05-11 16:29:04
fthfl stwrd rudy: thx. 1 day at a time, rite?

#  Posted 2008-05-11 19:54:40
Yukon King: out of the mouths of... athletes!
:)

#  Posted 2008-05-12 04:35:20
afflitto: You are both an inspiration to me!

#  Posted 2008-05-12 09:58:58
Yukon King: well, YOU inspire ME! (both of you) that's what AP is all about. or maybe life...
:)
may be time for chemical intervention, R? if the vibration is getting in there - sometimes, chemicals are our friends.

#  Posted 2008-05-12 17:55:44
fthfl stwrd rudy: so far been able to manage w tylenol (so as not to interfere w/ clotting). switching to aspirin today because of the liver thing, been able to nix the percocet so far, though temptation has been there!

#  Posted 2008-05-12 21:44:02
Yukon King: mmmm, percocet... :) (I think I had some of those back in college when I got my wisdom teeth pulled)

changing the meds back and forth is a classically good medication strategy altho I've not heard of it happening over such a short-term.

remember that pain management is not you in a pissing contest with the pain (uuuh, OK, good to remember that myself...OK, my position is actually somewhat tidal, I guess, sometimes it IS a pissing contest, sometimes not)
"Pain Management" involves the effective suppression of pain so as to avoid the really significant & wearing psychological & body-chemistry side-effects (ie not talking about effects on more directly anatomical type stuff such muscle wastage and loss of range of motion).
A really notable sub-component of pain mgmt strategy is the concept of proactive management/supression, ie NOT reactive/after the fact, the idea there being it actually takes more chemical poundage to control a pain that has gotten well-established as a sensation & is galloping sturdily along, than to keep a pain "asleep".
Just a random thought or two since yer in that zone.

#  Posted 2008-05-13 03:44:47
fthfl stwrd rudy: all that is true, but when you ride in 35 degree icy rain for a while, etc. you redefine the boundaries - its all what you are used to. i think this is probably true of a lot o orienteers n ultra athletes.

#  Posted 2008-05-13 07:13:08
afflitto: Hang on to the percocet, I heard it is quite good.........jk...kinda.......a friend of mine takes it after Ironman all the time....loves it.......sounds like you are managing much better than I would.....hang in there friend!

#  Posted 2008-05-13 07:35:39
Yukon King: well, pain mgmt strategies only need to be considered when there's pain to be managed, if the pain's insignificant on the individual's personal scale, then whooohhooo! no worries!
It's a beautiful thing, & I'm glad that you have good hi thresholds cuz crazy-chemicals-in-the-bod, even if effective, are be avoided if at ALL possible! hang in there, achey-collar-bone dude...

#  Posted 2008-05-13 14:10:30
fthfl stwrd rudy: so, i was thinking of you, achy joint lady, is ur pain like crazy or just like very very annoying? i so agree about the chemicals. it is like trying to fix a seashell w/ a sledge hammer, it could be done judiciuosly but hard to avoid collateral damage.

i am actually grateful for this injury cuz i can understand the people at the nursing home better who just sit or lie there in one position and get all scrunched up and cannot really move until someone moves them.

i asked the man in the hardware store if he still rode his bike - i had seen him tooling around on his schwinn 3 spd, and he said, 'no, i have ms, and my arms are getting too weak. but we all have something, and thats just what i have'

i would need the percocet way before the end of the im! thanks for your remarks - your friendship is appreciated!

#  Posted 2008-05-13 20:16:36
Yukon King: no, I am lucky, mine is low-grade (or interpreted as lo-grade? hmmm, like you say there is quite a bit of personal interpretation there, also part of P. Mgmt - interpret it as lo-grade as possible) -when it is unusual in any of several ways then I note it on log to track & treat back down into the background rumble, also to record & see if it corresponds to damage in the long run. However, this low-grade pain does "wear" psychologically which is a another complete PhD dissertation, and requires various strategies.

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