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Discussion: The Plan

in: barb; barb > 2008-05-13;

#  Posted 2008-05-13 23:06:27
JohnL: It's hard to tell without seeing the list - but the plan seems GUARANTEED to fail at some point. Of course 'failure' is a negative term, and on the positive side, by keeping good records you could end up with some interesting data to analyze. Where are the limits? What works? What doesn't? How good was the original list? Etc. Sounds like it could be a fun process - almost like a game - or an interesting experiment...

#  Posted 2008-05-14 02:53:43
PG: I find my best motivation for such things comes from being really pissed at the status quo, pissed enough to finally do something. Ad then sticking to a plan, once I get going, requires some amount of reward, where the most valuable award is not something material but just a good feeling -- I've done something and now I like how I feel, and so I'm more likely to stick to it.

But everyone is different.

The G is going down, training is going up. Got pissed a couple of weeks ago. Starting to feel better.... :-)

#  Posted 2008-05-14 06:36:26
barb: I'm not good at staying pissed.
I was think maybe I need a colonoscopy to get the weight goals jump-started...

#  Posted 2008-05-14 08:29:55
levitin: Sorry, the colonoscopy does not result in radical weight loss(or at least, weight loss that continues after the point where you come out of anesthesia with permission to eat solid foods after liquid-only fasting for what seems like an inhumanely long time).

Maybe you are thinking of the colon cleansing ? I don't know if you are exposed to cheesy commercials, but there are a variety of products hawked on the radio offering to help you shed the 5 to 10 pounds of gunk (technical term) lodged in the walls of your digestive system.

#  Posted 2008-05-14 15:36:59
barb: I think a day of liquid-only fasting could be a good start. I was thinking of colonoscopy prep, not colon cleansing, but now I want to stop thinking about colons at all.

#  Posted 2008-05-14 19:41:01
Yukon King: I Love, Love, Love the 17 step plan - dunno quite where JohnL's guarantee'd failure comes in, perhaps it's the same as my (somewhat baseless) intuition that some days, say in the 5/day range, yer gonna start not always scoring perfect 5's, but I say what the hey, with a nice list & some record-keeping, you could really start scoring some excellently improved days, ie I think that four better behaviors (of your choice) every day is awesome, and if even one or two become effortless habits, even better! I wanna do it too!

#  Posted 2008-05-14 22:29:14
barb: Hey, thanks for the encouragement!
Maybe JohnL is seeing a mathematical impossibility: that on the 18th week you can't do 18 out of 17 things. Other than that I'm not sure what he could mean...

#  Posted 2008-05-15 02:56:25
JohnL: No mathematical impossibilities - just human nature - the way Barb stated the plan, 'failure' would be doing (or not doing) the requisite number of items every day. I was just being literal. Meeting the goals every day would certainly not happen for me. In reality, meeting most of the goals most of the days should be considered highly successful - especially as the 'game' progresses.

#  Posted 2008-05-15 04:35:48
barb: well, i actually already failed. yesterday. but i'm not letting that stop me. of course, it does make John right which is a good thing to acknowledge.

#  Posted 2008-05-15 06:01:37
Boojums: It seems like it would be easier (for someone like me, at least), if you picked one specific thing each week rather than just saying you have to do any one (or two or three) each day. That would help build habits, so that as you added things each week the previous week's goals would just seem natural... or at least, that would be the hope. ;-)

#  Posted 2008-05-15 06:02:58
barb: Not for me. Much easier to pick and choose each day. That way I get to indulge periodically in various things and it doesn't feel so terribly hard. Like, staying up late every once in a while is OK (except in the last few weeks) - but generally getting to bed on time.

#  Posted 2008-05-15 20:42:58
Yukon King: I knew someone who did a set of new year's resolutions a few years ago that included "I resolve to put pants on almost every day" - he's actually a very serious, humourless person (and employed, and NOT living in his mom's basement!), and he wanted a do-able resolution. I was mesmerized by this resolution & still am to this day. Dunno quite why I brought that up.

I think that after a few weeks of moderate diligence, yer gonna observe that you some favorites that get done pretty frequently - those would thus be candidates for gently pressing on into full habit-ness, and the remaining list could then be reviewed, added to, removed and generally fluffed up & refreshed for further action. It's a Great Plan.

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