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#  Posted 2008-07-14 07:29:58
vmeyer: I thought of you today when I was driving home and was being attacked INSIDE MY CAR by three FDFs!! Opening all of the windows, and going 70 mph did not flush them out of the car. They were biting my ankles throughout the miserable drive.

#  Posted 2008-07-14 09:18:09
JanetT: I told Peter D. about your encounters and solution. Did he get a chance to see any blue hats?

How many points did you and Barb end up with?

Was the hand-to-hand combat area in the vicinity of 66, or elsewhere?

#  Posted 2008-07-14 09:18:29
jjcote: What does the other 'M' stand for in 'MFM'? Marauding?

When I was living in Colorado, there was a year or two when the miller moths were really bad. They showed up everywhere, and seemed to have a particular knack for getting into cars.

#  Posted 2008-07-14 10:34:26
feet: @vmeyer: Only in the US would a person not stop to get the insects out of the car ;)

@jjcote: There is a familiar compound expletive which would fill the 'MF' bill.

#  Posted 2008-07-14 19:24:44
PG: No, I didn't get a chance to do a blue cap show and tell at the rogaine.

I have, however, continued to do more research to refine the product. Under certain circumstances (hot weather, lots of sweating) the cap can get wet enough that the tape's adhesive ability is severely compromised, so that brushing against a branch can knock the tape off, leaving you defenseless (and with a rather unappealing bit of litter to carry for the rest of the run).

My research found that some caps work better than other when wet. To be specific, the very nice all-cotton cap I got at the US Champs last fall at Quantico is pretty useless for anytime there is serious sweating. Thumbs up for good looks, but definitely thumbs down for the FDF battles. Whereas, an ancient K-Swiss cap, made out of some sort of stiffish polyester, ugly as sin, is perfect for FDF purposes. After 9 hours of rogaining and numerous encounters with branches, the tape was still sticking well, and I had a nice collection of bits and pieces of twigs and leaves and dirt and about 30 FDFs. Virtually a piece of art....

Next step is to come of with the truly portable FDF kit, a mini roll of duct tape and a mini container of Tanglefoot, so that the cap can be prepared on the road for the second day of the rogaine.

Separately, William is right, the first word is mother....

#  Posted 2008-07-14 21:39:50
barb: (Peter swears a lot.)

#  Posted 2008-07-14 21:47:34
barb: After yesterday, I really like the idea of a portable FDF kit. I was wondering if we could just use one of those fly strips somehow. Do the fly strips work on FDFs?

Here's some interesting information from Wikipedia about fly paper: "A common home formula for the coating contains white sugar, maple syrup, and brown sugar. It is also usually coated with arsenic to make the flies die."

On Saturday, I didn't get any FDFs on my hat. Maybe they didn't like the color (red vs Peter's white), or maybe they went for the guy in front, or maybe I didn't apply enough sticky stuff.

I was a little worried that it would rain and I'd forget to deal with the hat and the glue would slide down into my hair and I'd end up with FDFs seriously entangled and buzzing, an insect version of Medusa.

#  Posted 2008-07-14 21:53:38
JanetT: Only doing the 6-hour, we saw/heard very few flies/FDFs; I think I killed only one, near a stream crossing. I suspect the situation might have been different at night, though.

#  Posted 2008-07-15 00:08:45
PBricker: News spreads. They were out to get Peter.

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