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| # Posted 2008-07-17 23:06:29 | |
| superwes1000: | you'll never be normal in my eyes. |
| # Posted 2008-07-18 01:14:42 | |
| Bash: | Awww... thanks, Superwes. That's sweet. |
| # Posted 2008-07-18 03:21:26 | |
| urthbuoy: | Cutting neoprene gaskets - don't unless you can use the surgeon hands of your local dentist. You'll most likely end up with a little burr that will just rip when stretched. Just put the gasket over a pylon or soccer ball or such and let it stretch out over a few days. Much better fit that way and better longevity.
Hope that helps. |
| # Posted 2008-07-18 09:30:07 | |
| Bash: | These were latex neck gaskets that were strangling me, and they're designed in rings where the ones at the top of your neck are the tightest. According to a store that sells a lot of them, it's OK to cut off a ring or two. But... I just couldn't bring myself to wear something that tight around my neck. Today I ordered a paddling suit where the neck *is* neoprene, and don't worry - I promise not to cut it. The down side is that when we're in the water - and there is some swimming in the Coast Raid - I will get some water in it. |
| # Posted 2008-07-18 09:59:36 | |
| Sherpa: | Hey Bash
I have a nice jacket that you can borrow if you want. It's totally waterproof, the neck is snug, but not too tight, I already cut it. Let me know, you can take a look at it. It's awesome, I think I may have used it once at a race. Let me know if you'll be out this way anytime soon or if I can pass it along to someone to get to you. |
| # Posted 2008-07-18 10:11:32 | |
| Bash: | Thanks, Sherpa. I had lined up someone's drytop to borrow, then decided today to break down and order the paddling suit. I could see myself using it for spring/fall sea kayaking or even canoeing, and I liked the idea of wearing clothes on the water (under the suit) instead of a wetsuit, since that should make the transition a little easier when we get out of the water to do something else. (Although I might be totally wrong on that. But if I wear a wetsuit and drytop, I picture myself having to take off everything I'm wearing before starting to trek, for example. Temperatures are only 3-15C up there, and it will be easy to get chilled.) |
| # Posted 2008-07-18 16:40:07 | |
| 'Bent: | Urthbuoy, while we're on the topic, I have a farmer john and a jacket with latex seals at neck and wrist. With your recent swimming experience, what are your thoughts about this combo, given that it will leak like a sieve around the waist when swimming? Would you wear something like a thin wetsuit top over the FJ and under the dry top? |
| # Posted 2008-07-18 18:48:24 | |
| superwes1000: | >>>>The down side is that when we're in the water - and there is some swimming in the Coast Raid - I will get some water in it.
I understood that one of the nice things about a wetsuit is that once the water gets in it warms up fast and provides a little warm, wet blanket all around you. |
| # Posted 2008-07-18 21:34:24 | |
| Leanimal: | Sherpa if Bash is out for the dry top of yours can I put myself next on the list? I haven't gotten quite as far as Bash in my research! |
| # Posted 2008-07-18 22:58:51 | |
| urthbuoy: | Sorry, I should have caught that. I still don't cut the "latex" gaskets. I just let them stretch out for a few days over a pylon. You can always wear it for a long time and the gaskets will naturally stretch out, but I know the blue face feeling.
Bent, I wear this - http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PROD... with a farmer john should I be concerned about temps. The "splash" jacket then becomes more of a surface temp consideration, though it will give some protection for sure if swimming. I think that's the setup I had for Explore Sweden with fins and kickboard. Grab yourself a cap as well - they fit nice under helmets. http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PROD... And while we're on this topic - I don't recommend paddling with neoprene gloves for any length of time. The way you end up having to "overgrip" can lead to some tendonitis. If you're a cold hand sufferer - pogies or just a thin glove covered with your nitrile/latex surgeon's gloves will do the trick. |
| # Posted 2008-07-21 01:48:24 | |
| Bash: | Thanks, Urthbuoy! We bought that exact paddling cap last week. Nice that it comes with your seal of approval, as I was wondering whether it was warm enough. Definitely windproof!
Glad to hear you say that about the neoprene gloves, as it gives me the excuse I need to not wear them. I have a couple of pairs, and I've never lasted in them more than 15 minutes. When we paddled above the Arctic Circle, I used regular dish gloves, which are big enough to put a polypro liner underneath to stay dry, but I rarely bothered because I was so warm in just the gloves (while paddling, that is). If I added pogies to that, my hands felt like they were in a furnace (so I didn't). The only value I can see to neoprene gloves is if you plan to fall into cold water far from shore. |
| # Posted 2008-07-21 02:44:48 | |
| 'Bent: | Cool, Urthbuoy. I think I have a very similar shirt, a warmish Farmer John (In addition to the older one LeAnimal borrowed) and a paddling dry top. I can wear the shirt, FJ and dry top.
OK, here's another wrinkle- If I wear the FJ *over* the dry top, will I have less water flooding in around the waist when swimming than if I wear it under the dry top as is traditional? It would certainly be easier to unzip to take a leak. |
| # Posted 2008-07-21 11:45:42 | |
| urthbuoy: | Bent, your preference, but if the shirt is what I think it is, put it next to your body with the farmer john over top. The jacket over top of everything. |
| # Posted 2008-07-21 17:14:50 | |
| 'Bent: | Yep, I was planning on wearing the shirt next to skin, but then thinking that the jacket can go next, and the Farmer John over all would greatly reduce the leakage at the waist seal. The neck and wrists won't leak. |
| # Posted 2008-07-22 01:05:16 | |
| Bash: | We may not have mentioned that we *do* expect to be submerged in cold water. The organizers are recommending that we wear our warm paddling clothing when we do coasteering and adventure swimming sections. This gives us another factor to consider in choosing our paddling gear. |
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