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| # Posted 2006-01-26 07:53:49 | |
| Wyatt: | As an early sign of possible over training, it's good to see you're tracking that! Very professional... |
| # Posted 2006-01-26 14:17:18 | |
| ebone: | Thanks. The presence of multiple fatigue factors is what makes me decide to back off:
1. significant tiredness in the leg muscles lasting for days 2. elevated morning heart rate 3. a restless, interrupted sleep on Monday night Any one of those factors by itself wouldn't necessarily cause me to scale back, but the combination is persuasive. |
| # Posted 2006-01-28 03:36:48 | |
| jfredrickson: | Very interesting. I have always thought about taking my resting HR, but never really got around to doing it. How do you do it? Do you use an HR monitor? |
| # Posted 2006-01-28 07:21:11 | |
| j-man: | John - I shouldn't make too many smart comments, but I'm in that mood, and this seems to merit it - so I apologize. You'll get me soon enough:)
For the morning HR... you could try counting it. I think we had a class in college about that. |
| # Posted 2006-01-28 08:06:59 | |
| Boojums: | Actually, I'm curious about people's techniques. I've been trying to measure my morning RHR for weeks now, but I can't find a pulse that I can feel strong enough to actually count it. I've tried side of my neck, wrist, putting my head on the mattress to listen... nothing. I can barely feel anything. Am I missing something? |
| # Posted 2006-01-28 11:09:58 | |
| ebone: | John, I feel my pulse on the palm side of my wrist, on the thumb side (the radial artery is here). I look at my watch to measure 20 to 30 seconds, then multiply the count by 3 or 2, as appropriate.
Cristina, some people have a lot of trouble feeling a pulse anywhere. I have a hypothesis that people like that (you) are zombies, masquerading as normal people, waiting for the right time to pounce and slurp brains, chew skin, etc. But seriously, you could try pressing a bit harder on your wrist (using your fingers, not your thumb), or feeling your sternum or between your ribs on the left side. If all else fails, try a stethescope (surely you have one in the medicine cabinet) or a heart rate monitor. Whenever someone tells me that they can't feel their own pulse and I give it a try, I always can, so maybe it's just a matter of knowing where to feel for it or how hard to press (or maybe I just have sensitive fingertips). |
| # Posted 2006-01-29 06:46:50 | |
| jfredrickson: | I definitely fall into the zombie category. Last August when I went to get my physicaly so that I could run in college my doctor freaked out when she took my HR at 34 and sent me to a cardiologist. He basically came to the same conclusion as Eric.
My HR monitor works nicely to pick up those few beats, so I might keep that handy by my bed. One more question though, do you do it before you sit/get up? I would think that as soon as you start moving your HR is bound to go up. All though I'm a pretty active sleeper so I might wake up with my HR through the roof feeling confused why my legs are so tired anyway. I'll have to do some experimenting with this. I'm not looking forward to getting up that extra minute early though. |
| # Posted 2006-01-29 06:48:54 | |
| jfredrickson: | Oh yeah, I just remembered something the cardiologist told me. He said that you shouldn't take your pulse with your thumb because your thumb actually has a pulse of your own and it will lead to inaccurate results. He said that you should do it with your index and middle finger. I think I'll still use my HR monitor. It's a little less invasive (at least when you have to dig into your wrist as deep as I do to find a pulse). |
| # Posted 2006-01-29 11:21:49 | |
| ebone: | The whole thumb thing is a little overblown though. It's not as if your thumb's pulse is independent of the beat of your heart. I just think it may somehow get in the way of feeling the pulse on other parts of your body using your thumb. Maybe it results in double-counting, because of some offset. I've tried it and never had a problem, but I have a very strong pulse in my radial and carotid arteries, so it's easy to feel (or even see, often).
Oh, and to answer your question, yes I take it before I get up (and usually before I sit up or move much), and I lie still and try to relax into as much of a sleep-like state as possible (without actually falling asleep, of course). |
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