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| # Posted 2009-08-16 10:08:16 | |
| greg: | Those of you who use SportTracks software may be interested in a plugin I have recently developed. It allows you to export your SportTracks activities to AttackPoint training log. I tried to make the plugin as customizable as possible to make it suitable for different usage scenarios. I am sure I missed some of them. So, your feedback is very welcome.
You can download the plugin from here and use it for free. The same page has links to documentation. The current release is of beta quality which means that I am the only person who tested and used the plugin. If you find any bugs please submit them and I will try to fix them in a reasonable time. |
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| # Posted 2009-08-16 11:25:16 | |
| 20_of_70: | This is pretty sweet. Nice interface and automation. It will be very nice not having to re-enter everything into attackpoint. Thank you!
Haven't figured out how to set the intensity yet. One error after I change the Summary:Category: "Invoke or BeginInvoke cannot be called on a control until the window handle has been created." Worked around it by restarting, but also might just need to go to Logbook:Save. |
| # Posted 2009-08-16 12:03:23 | |
| greg: | Thanks for the feedback.
whyjustrun, if you happen to see this exception again can you send me the log file, please. Click Start->Run. Enter "%UserProfile%/Local Settings/Application Data/ZoneFiveSoftware/SportTracks" and hit enter. Windows Explorer will open the folder. The log file should be there. It is called attackpoint-plugin.log. Thanks! |
| # Posted 2009-08-16 12:50:26 | |
| c.hill: | It said export complete yet nothing has showed up on my attackpoint profile!?
Can you reverse the programme? As in download your attackpoint trainings to sportstracks? |
| # Posted 2009-08-16 20:19:45 | |
| greg: | Theoretically, you can export the other way around. I was thinking about this functionality also. The problem is AttackPoint doesn't support programmatic way of retrieving your training log. One would have to scrape HTML and parse it. So, this is mostly question to Ken :)
Regarding your export problem. I know this is obvious but did you try to refresh the page in the browser? Also are you looking at the same time period in your AP log as your allegedly exported training? You may try to export it again if haven't tried yet. Anyway, I will take a look. |
| # Posted 2009-08-16 20:25:33 | |
| greg: | All, please make sure you are using the latest version of SportTracks which is 2.1.3478. The version can be seen in Settings->System menu. You can download the latest version of SportTracks from here |
| # Posted 2009-08-16 21:31:50 | |
| c.hill: | I downloaded the newest version but still nothing shows up on AT |
| # Posted 2009-08-16 23:20:18 | |
| Stryder: | Absolutely awesome! Thanks much. |
| # Posted 2009-08-17 01:09:23 | |
| ken: | Greg, you should be able to retrieve training log data via Attackpoint's CSV export. see "reports" |
| # Posted 2009-08-17 02:54:12 | |
| greg: | Ah. I haven't thought about it. I will put import from AP to ST on my feature list for future releases. |
| # Posted 2009-11-24 23:05:56 | |
| greg: | I have released a new version of the plugin. All problems reported in this thread have been fixed. Some new features have been added. The download link and the full list of fixed bugs and new features can be found here.
I recommend upgrading to the latest version. |
| # Posted 2009-12-07 17:13:55 | |
| Strand: | Nice! |
| # Posted 2009-12-08 21:49:43 | |
| bradc: | Greg. You are my hero! I've been looking for this ever since I started using SportTracks. Thanks! |
| # Posted 2009-12-09 00:21:20 | |
| jonm: | fantastic :) |
| # Posted 2009-12-09 02:25:08 | |
| rachael: | i agree, its brilliant! really liking the newest version so I can log 0 distance :) |
| # Posted 2009-12-10 00:14:57 | |
| greg: | Thank you all, guys! I am really glad you found it useful :) |
| # Posted 2009-12-10 05:09:55 | |
| rwagnon: | Awesome awesome awesome. |
| # Posted 2009-12-11 07:36:18 | |
| maprunner: | I want my AP intensity to match HR, and I have matched it up in the plugin. I have also said all the SP intensities are equal to "none" on AP. Now, when I try to export, it tells me intensities are not mapped in the plugin. What do I need to do? |
| # Posted 2009-12-11 18:23:07 | |
| ken: | I think you can ignore SportTracks "intensity" in this case. You probably want to check the plugin settings box labeled "auto-calculate mixed intensity" and maybe uncheck the one that says "warn about unspecified intensity". Have you defined your SportTracks HR zones? "Other Tasks" > "Select View" > Categories > "Heart Rate Zones" |
| # Posted 2009-12-11 19:25:12 | |
| rachael: | I get the same problem, but if you "clear" then "recalculate" on the attackpoint tab and then go back to the summary tab before exporting it works fine. It seems that it doesn't know it has the intensities unless you recalc them but i have no idea why!! |
| # Posted 2009-12-11 23:59:04 | |
| greg: | Yes. The code that auto-calculates mixed intensities is triggered when you switch to attackpoint tab. Until then the plugin doesn't know that you want to export mixed intensities and defaults to regular case. Hence, the message about unmapped intensities. So, the workflow should be like this: 1) Switch to attackpoint tab; 2) Check that mixed intensities look reasonable in case they were auto-calculated or manually enter your own values; 3) Switch back to summary tab or any other tab -- this saves whatever is entered in attackpoint tab into your logbook; 4) Export.
I think it should work even without clicking "clear"/"recalc". Step #3 can be avoided if and when I fix it :) |
| # Posted 2009-12-13 16:38:41 | |
| Krügerol: | got a similar problem here. when i switch to the attackpoint tab there are no mixed intensities calculated. if i push the recalc button, i get the message that the mapping for the active heart rate zone is not specified, although it is of course. |
| # Posted 2009-12-13 23:03:13 | |
| rachael: | hi Krügerol, under settings, Attackpoint plugin, check that the HR zones tab has the correct associations.
I renamed my zones a while ago and got the same error message as I hadn't re-entered the associations... |
| # Posted 2009-12-14 03:08:30 | |
| Krügerol: | thanks rachael, but in the HR zones tab everything is alright. |
| # Posted 2009-12-15 23:52:17 | |
| Swisscheese: | I just started using this plugin and really like it. As I most often use my heart rate for the training I am happy to be able to use an automatic hr zone feature to log my training.
Before I was copying it manually from Garmin Training Center (which is actually not calculating the hr zones correctly, as the time just between two zones is counted double... in the lower and the higher zone). But I don't plan to always use my GPS watch for the training. Is it also possible to use the Suunto or Polar watches with SportTracks? |
| # Posted 2009-12-15 23:58:16 | |
| Swisscheese: | Actually, does Ken's new GPS feature make this plug-in obsolete?
Would it also do an automatic hr-zone filter? Most probably it would not read the info from a Suunto/Polar watch, right? Just asking as I am not yet able to try it out on my log. But my winter season has now started and I need to figure out how I plan to log my trainings for the next season. |
| # Posted 2009-12-16 00:18:00 | |
| Alex M: | On the SportTracks website I can't find any reference to whether my watch (Polar RS300) is compatible with the software, is anyone using SportTracks with the RS300 as I would like to know before I download it. Thanks. |
| # Posted 2009-12-16 00:55:18 | |
| ken: | The new gps feature will also work via the ST AP plugin (next plugin release), so nothing is obsolete. And there are some nice benefits of doing it this way, for example there are other plugins for ST which support many additional devices and file types (e.g. GPX). The Elevation Correction plugin is a great one to cleanup the notoriously bad GPS elevation data on your tracks.
I don't know exactly which devices are supported, but I do see plugins for Polar/Suunto import. Also, the AP Garmin transfer does do the auto hr-zone thing, so you can do it either way. |
| # Posted 2009-12-20 10:11:25 | |
| hughmac4: | Hey Greg: delicious. Really nice, thanks! I'm looking forward to the next version (per Ken's last post above) with the mapping feature.
One thing, which is probably a user fumble, but I haven't figured it out ... I prefer English units, and when I export ST > AP (both of which have English units as my default prefs) the distance gets converted to k. Can I fix this up without having to manually edit my AP entries? |
| # Posted 2009-12-20 14:09:28 | |
| Swisscheese: | The new Plug in for ST is really cool. Thanks a lot!
So, I am trying to get familiar with ST but I have troubles with the HR-zones. 1. Does ST show in its activity reports in which HR zones I have been training in for the last period of time? 2. If I didn't wear a HR monitor for my workout, is it possible to add manually my time in the different HR-zones? (OK, on the AP Plugin I can do so, but probably those data won't be valuable for the ST database and it won't come out on the activity report of ST? Thanks for your help! |
| # Posted 2009-12-21 00:11:14 | |
| greg: | @hughmac: actually, it's not a user fumble. Unfortunately, it is a bug. I agree the way it works now is very inconvenient. I will fix it for the next release.
@Swisscheese: I am afraid the answer is "no" to both questions. I might be wrong as I am not an expert in ST. Check out ST forum. Maybe it has an answer. |
| # Posted 2009-12-21 00:22:05 | |
| greg: | @Swisscheese: Check out this thread, this, and this. I am sure there are more threads on ST forum regarding your questions. |
| # Posted 2009-12-21 00:37:29 | |
| hughmac4: | Thanks greg, I'm just happy to know it wasn't a fumble on my part! |
| # Posted 2009-12-21 02:29:52 | |
| Swisscheese: | Thanks. I'll read myself through them during my post meal food comas at x-mas. |
| # Posted 2010-01-18 01:10:26 | |
| greg: | The new version of the plugin is available. A bug reported by @hughmac (English units v.s. metric units) has been fixed.
Many thanks to Ken for integrating export of GPS track. It is available for a limited set of users. See the details in this thread. |
| # Posted 2010-01-18 01:24:31 | |
| Krügerol: | Tried the new one, but still got the same problem as stated before:
when i switch to the attackpoint tab there are no mixed intensities calculated. if i push the recalc button, i get the message that the mapping for the active heart rate zone is not specified, although it is of course. |
| # Posted 2010-01-18 03:31:48 | |
| hughmac4: | Bingo Greg! Thanks! Definitely looking forward to the GPS track integration as well. Maybe Ken will pity me for being a good bug reporter for Greg? :) |
| # Posted 2010-01-18 05:22:11 | |
| Juffy: | Ooooh, shiny!
GPS import works nicely, I was hoping this could be made to work. Thanks Greg! |
| # Posted 2010-01-20 08:11:30 | |
| greg: | I have fixed the bug reported by @Krügerol. So, you should download the latest version if you have the same problem. |
| # Posted 2010-01-20 15:59:46 | |
| Old_Fox: | great plugin. Thanks!
Installed the latest version, but getting some really weird results - look at my log entry 13th (Wed last week) to see what I mean :( |
| # Posted 2010-01-20 17:19:24 | |
| ken: | Cool track Old_Fox;-) Looks like a problem in my part of the export code. Greg, I will fix. |
| # Posted 2010-01-21 15:32:10 | |
| naomi: | hmm, i am somehow still too stupid.... this feature should be available to all of us by now, shouldnt it? i downloaded the newest sporttracks plugin and set it to everybody can see the file. but if i upload my training i dont get the globe with the gps link.
help? :x |
| # Posted 2010-01-21 20:11:41 | |
| ken: | No, track export is not available to everyone yet. still working out a few issues. |
| # Posted 2010-01-21 21:07:54 | |
| naomi: | oh, ok. thx :) thought it got implemented with the new plugin. so i will continue to wait! :) |
| # Posted 2010-01-23 16:48:51 | |
| Juffy: | Greg/Ken,
There seems to be a bit of rounding going on with my more recent imports from SportTracks, eg. this one. If you switch to Hybrid and zoom right in the track is jagged, whereas if I import it directly into AP (via the Garmin importy thing) then it's fine. The track displayed in ST itself is also nice and smooth. ST v2.1.3478 ST plugin v1.2.117 and .121, both affected. Is this a known issue? |
| # Posted 2010-01-24 07:28:08 | |
| ken: | I hadn't noticed this before, but I can see why it's happening. oddly, ST is only giving plugins access to 7 digits of precision for lat/long, which is especially bad at your longitude, where 3 of those digits are used left of the decimal point. it seems to keep up to 15 digits internally, so hopefully there is a way to squeeze 2 more digits out. I will experiment. |
| # Posted 2010-01-24 08:39:30 | |
| Juffy: | Bug status: Confirmed.
Bug resolution: Suggest user move closer to the UK. :) |
| # Posted 2010-01-31 18:10:32 | |
| ken: | As of yesterday, track export is now enabled for all current donors (i.e. if you've donated the suggested amount in the last year). There is not a new plugin version for this, but everyone should probably update to the current release, 1.2.0125, especially if you have any problems. (Juffy's jagged track issue is fixed in the current release)
The track view is accessible in your log via the  icon next to your entries. If you do not want your tracks published, then you can change that using the "GPS track visible to" setting in Settings > Plugins > Attackpoint or for individual activities on the Attackpoint detail view for that activity. |
| # Posted 2010-02-01 03:09:32 | |
| hughmac4: | Perfect ken! No fiddling, no fuss, works like a charm. |
| # Posted 2010-02-09 11:59:17 | |
| greg: | The latest version now exports session start time (courtesy of Ken). He also fixed a problem with GPS track upload. You should update to the latest version regardless of your AP account type: basic or advanced. |
| # Posted 2010-03-01 01:02:02 | |
| daveabrams: | when exporting multiple trainings from the activity reports screen all of the trainings are exported under the same start time. is there any way around this apart from exporting each training separately? |
| # Posted 2010-03-01 07:12:53 | |
| ken: | What's actually going on here is that exported training activities get their session-hour from the earliest adjacent activity, where adjacent currently means less than 60mins from the end of one activity to the start of the next one. Exporting each activity separately is actually not a way around this, the result is intentionally the same either way.
Maybe the 60min gap size could be configurable in future versions, but in the meantime if you still don't want this behavior, another option is to go back to v1.2.x which doesn't export this value at all, or just correct those cases where it doesn't come out exactly as you want (which hopefully is not every time!) see here for some discussion of session-hour: http://www.attackpoint.org/discussionthread.jsp/me... |
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