Discussion: Jukola 2010 this weekend!

Jukola is this weekend.

I emailed the organizers and received this reply:
Both Venla and Jukola relays can be watched on the website http://www.yle.fi/urheilu , Venla relay on saturday 14.00 at finnish time and Jukola relay starting on Saturday 22.55.

"We don’t have videos on our website http://www.jukola2010.net , only on-line results and news.

World of O usually has a live blog with nice screen shots and discussion.

The Attackpoint event listing is here. (Props to mkaira for maintaining the Jukola event listing---I've done it in the past, and it's pretty hard when you can't read Finnish.)
mkaira already added the streaming links and converted the times:

Start times
Venla relay 19th June at 2:00pm local time
*New York, US at 7:00am
*San Francisco, US at 4:00am
*London, UK at noon
*Sydney, AUS at 9pm

Jukola relay 19th June at 10:55pm local time
*New York, US at 3:55pm
*San Francisco, US at 12:55pm
*London, UK at 8:55pm
*Sydney, AUS at 5:55am (on Sunday)

I haven't asked ken what he prefers regarding making new threads, but I propose that we attempt to keep the number of Jukola threads to a minimum. If it's about Jukola 2010, post it here.

Knowing there are number of oirenteers in NAm that have some knowledge in Swedish, you can follow the webcast with Swedish comentary following this link.

Hurry to see the start:
http://areena.yle.fi/player/index.php?stream=1021&...

World of O: Jukola: All you need to know
(the live blog is at the bottom of that page)

Just saw Swisscheese get the handoff for VeVe!

VeVe is Team 5.

Here is the main results page where you can follow the times at the radio controls.

From the radio control view you can click on the team number to view the runners' names (and see who is running anchor).

The World of O live blog (link above) is pretty cool because it has some quick translations of the interviews.

Its more fun to guess. "And there's Lauenstein - swiss cheese of AP fame. He once ate a goat for breakfast"

You're probably right. I keep missing the images because I'm looking at the results tables. And that's just wrong.

tv down?

Same thing happened this morning in the Venla. I think they must have a fixed hourly contract.

According to the Jukola:All you need to know page, the internet broadcast was scheduled to finish at 6am CET (i.e. 9 minutes ago), as the race was expected to have finished by then.

Radio link (thanks to World of O Blog)

So...

1. Halden SK in 8:32:41

http://online2.jukola.com/tulokset/en/j2010_ju/kil...

1 3 Halden SK NOR 8:32:41 Olav Lundanes 1:38:44
2 2 Kalevan Rasti FIN +7:07 Thierry Gueorgiou 1:32:17
3 11 Vaajakosken Terä FIN +17:42 Jani Lakanen 1:40:08
4 25 Lynx FIN +22:57 Roman Ryapolov 1:45:55
5 67 Paimion Rasti FIN +24:13 Kim Fagerudd 1:37:25
6 16 IL Tyrving NOR +24:37 Audun Weltzien 1:37:12
7 5 Vehkalahden Veikot FIN +25:48 Tero Föhr 1:42:39
8 7 Delta FIN +26:29 Valentin Novikov 1:34:17
9 13 OK Linne SWE +26:38 Henrik Löfås 1:41:35
10 17 Angelniemen Ankkuri FIN +26:42 Aleksei Bortnik 1:43:03
11 28 Tampereen Pyrintö FIN +27:38 Jarkko Huovila 1:40:40
12 23 Halden SK 2 NOR +27:44 Jon Pedersen 1:43:29

All results

http://www.jukola2010.net/sivut/pages/posts/over-1...

Only 300 of the 1500 teams managed to finish the 6th leg in time to send out their 7th runner before the mass start; 1100 in the mass start. (And presumably the missing 100 DNF or DSQ on an earlier leg.)

Now we know why France are doing so badly in South Africa - some of their key players were otherwise engaged:

1142 Tous Azimuts Douai 2
1 Zinedine Zidane
2 Youri Djorkaeff
3 Thierry Henry
4 Stphane Guivarch
5 Patrick R Vieira
6 Christophe R Dugarry
7 Aim C Jacquet

(maybe the real reason why Nicolas Anelka spat the dummy was because he got left out of the Jukola team)

The winning time was 50 minutes slower than the predicted winning time, which, in turn, had been predicted to be the slowest winning time in the history of the Jukola. If the Haldenites had such a slow run (the first four legs trodded along at just under 8:00/km in the lead, then sped up a bit), what about us mere mortals?

A local told me that this terrain was considered the most difficult terrain in Southern Finland. But looking at the map, one would be hard pressed to make this conclusion; the map featured mostly white woods, some cliffs, and some wet ground/indistinct marshes between the hills. In reality the runnability varied from easy to very difficult (with some semi-open or newly planted woods shown with distinct vegetation boundaries but not yellow), visibility was mostly poor, the marshes were quite wet, green, and slow, and the few trails turned into impassable swamps after the first leg.

It also seemed to me that there were a lot of places where there was no obvious rock showing on a slope, but the slope was very steep and it would be hard to go up and impossible to go down, yet there wouldn't be a cliff on the map, just some close contours; this part of the mapping style is perhaps correct, but requires a perception adjustment. In all, a terrain in which some training is well advised to get accustomed to the woods and the mapping style.

This all made for fun TV. The lead runners indeed ran, but starting as soon as about 60th–80th position you'd see people run/walk towards the camera control, then at about 200th it was mostly walking, with a lot of slowing/standing to read the map. I think the defining moment was just into the second leg—probably the first camera control—the lead twenty or so passed, and there was a lull. Then a lone runner appears, punches, looks back; sees lights, and decides to cool it off, standing and reading the map until the lights get closer. This elicited quite a bit of chuckles in the finish field.

It was definitely difficult terrain (I think the hardest I've ever been in) and it's true the map doesn't show how difficult it actually was. I guess what made it really hard was the bad runnability and very low visibility, sometimes also in the white areas. I ran the last leg of the woman's relay and there were tons of groups of women from the 2nd and 3rd leg out there just hiking through the terrain, for many people that was the fastest way to orienteer in this terrain. It makes running a good race tough when your constantly trying to pass mobs of women in groups walking in single lines etc. Of course the beaten paths are faster to run on, so it's almost impossible to pass people efficiently out there. It was an adventure!

oh, btw, the last time Jukola was in this area was 1981. It was pouring rain and 2°C all night. The winning times were 2 hours longer than expected. I think this year went well and the women were running the expected times for the most part.

I can´t say that this year was the hardest terrain I´ve been in (but that may only be because I also ran here in 1981 and had a terrible race...).

It was definitely a challenge but I was still relatively pleased with most of my (terribly slow) "run". I had hoped to be able to beat my poor performance from 1981 on the same leg (4th) and orienteering-wise I guess it was OK, but I was way too slow. A closer analysis of the race will probably show that there is lots of room for improvement even technically.

I ran in the morning and had daylight for my whole run, but I can imagine the difficulties they must have had at night.

I ran in a team of "old men" and a time of 10 min/km would have been acceptable for us, but only our first leg runner came close to that. We were still in the best third of the whole field for most of the race - but we were missing one runner and didn´t finish.

I ran first leg. Badly.

That was the hardest orienteering I've ever done, for several reasons.

At night, with low visibility the navigation was absolutely rock hard. Add in a few hundred people around you and things were crazy. I ended up running the whole long leg on my own. I was with the big 3rd group at 13, and managed to get onto the back of them again at 15... lucky.

My legs took a beating. The terrain was very rough, impossible to get a rhythm and it just made you feel unfit. You had to fight just to stay in the same position from one control to the next with so many people out there (I spent a lot of time with Tuna 1&2 bubo)

After legs 1,2,3 we were in 26th, sounds good, but we were maybe a few good decisions away from top 10 and a few bad decisions away from 100+...