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Discussion: Video + GPS sites?

in: Orienteering; Gear & Toys

Dec 26, 2010 5:33 PM # 
Cristina:
A while back there was a site called VeoGeo.com that allowed you to match up a gps track on Google Maps with a video on YouTube. It was pretty cool, but I never used it because I didn't have the proper toys. Now I have the toys, but the site's functionality is gone and they have no idea if/when they'll ever be back. Is anyone aware of another site that lets you do this?
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Dec 26, 2010 6:18 PM # 
Hammer:
I don't expect it will be long until that function is added to something like quickroute. The idea of 'reviewing the video' as is done routinely in hockey and football will likely become a major coaching tool for orienteering very very soon.
Dec 27, 2010 4:45 PM # 
Linear Ice:
If you're looking at a "tour" of your route, at ground level, you can do this is Google Earth. You can download Garmin gps route (or from file) from the TOOLS>GPS menu and then from TOOLS>Options, you can select how fast, angle from ground (90 degrees gives you running view), how far ahead you can see, etc. It's a little clunky IMO.
Dec 27, 2010 4:52 PM # 
Cristina:
I'd like to have the "tour" of the route, either on GoogleEarth or just with a map, but synchronized with actual video from the route, like off of a headcam.

Hopefully the lack of solutions offered to so far has something to do with the holiday season and not the actual lack of solutions available. ;-)
Dec 27, 2010 6:52 PM # 
Hammer:
Taco-C: Yes headcam video is what I was referring to with 'review the video'. I too am looking for some similar software. After seeing spikes video of you wearing the headcam, GHO went out and bought a camera for our kids program (both as a promo and coaching tool).
Dec 29, 2010 3:32 AM # 
ken:
I whipped up something simple for this last night, it just adds a video frame to the Attackpoint track viewer and follows along. See NewPatrick's log for a great example.

You can add these parameters to your /sessiondata.jsp url:
vtype: "youtube" or "vimeo"
vid: the video id
voffset: (optional) adjustment in seconds for gps and video sync.
qr: (optional) url to exported quickroute jpg image.

(you guys already using this, you'll notice these params have changed...your links will redirect to the new format. those pipe characters can sometimes cause problems.)

I will integrate this a bit more nicely when I get a chance. overlaying the quickroute map would also be great but will require more work.
Dec 30, 2010 12:07 AM # 
Iamstillhungry:
As an alternative to the GoPro I can recommend one of these or similar: http://www.themicrocamera.com/
The video is decent, it is cheaper and, most importantly, it is a heck of a lot lighter than the GoPro. You can simply tape or velcro it to the bill of a cap and run just as aggressively as normal. In contrast, IMO the GoPro camera is relatively bulky for running. The downside to the microcam is that it is not waterproof. Also, there are a lot of different versions of this type of camera on ebay and similar and many are crap. The one I link to above is pretty good but I wasted $30 on a dud purchased elsewhere.
Dec 30, 2010 4:48 AM # 
Hammer:
Wait until y'all see the latest version of this technology that Ken has put together. Just watching it right now!. video tracking with the O map! WOW factor is v. high.
Dec 30, 2010 10:44 AM # 
TheInvisibleLog:
I can anticipate the waves of viewing nausea already.
Dec 30, 2010 9:32 PM # 
ken:
see http://www.attackpoint.org/discussionthread.jsp/me...
Dec 30, 2010 9:59 PM # 
Linear Ice:
That's absolutely stunningly amazing! What a great training tool ..... to be able visualize in advance what the camera might be seeing, review your own course to wonder what you should have seen, etc.etc.etc. I really like this a LOT. Woohoo!
Dec 30, 2010 11:56 PM # 
Anvil:
As the bloke behind the camera, I can attest to how useful this process has been. The original purpose of the session was simply to get some footage and GPS data so ken would have something to work with to get this sweet system set up, but even from this 3km course on fairly easy terrain, I've picked up a number of things I need to work on - some I was aware of, some not.
In my opinion, these cameras definitely worth the outlay.
Dec 31, 2010 12:02 AM # 
Spike:
It really is very cool. When I was watching I kept finding myself wanting to make the camera look off to the right or left. It is very strange to feel like you are orienteering but not be able to look exactly where you want.
Dec 31, 2010 2:33 AM # 
Cristina:
This is really so much better than what I was originally asking for, which is a pretty rare occurrence on the internet. Really awesome. Do I get to say again that Ken and AP are truly amazing?
Dec 31, 2010 2:57 AM # 
Uncle JiM:
Fantastic!! I was telling Ev about this stuff the other night, and said the bit that was lacking is the map, as that is what NP is navigating with, so would be good to see it.

Well done Ken!!
Dec 31, 2010 5:11 AM # 
Hammer:
Well done Ken! This is also a good way to see
how good the field work is. Magnus did a very good
job. We chose this easier terrain because it was mostly in a field and Ken's initial function had no map (just the aerial photography).

Patrick, let's do a test at Rocky Ridge next.
Dec 31, 2010 8:41 AM # 
Henrik.:
Cool! I registered just for this feature.
Dec 31, 2010 2:17 PM # 
Anvil:
Patrick, let's do a test at Rocky Ridge next

If Rocky Ridge lives up to the hype, you're gonna have to turn the sound on the video off or provide a strong language warning.
Dec 31, 2010 6:38 PM # 
Pink Socks:
Wow! If we could somehow hook this up on the web in real-time, it would make MoboGoGlobo! a lot more appealing to people.
Jan 2, 2011 6:20 PM # 
Henrik.:
Do I need to be a paying member to use this?
Jan 2, 2011 6:46 PM # 
JanetT:
I believe the video inclusion may still be in testing.

Here's what you have access to for donating to the site.
Jan 2, 2011 8:13 PM # 
ken:
If you want to make your own, it needs to read the GPS track from a session in your training log, and you have to be a paying member to upload track data in your log.
Jan 13, 2011 3:19 AM # 
Hammer:
In an email discussion last week with the editor of Breathe Magazine I mentioned that GHO had done a test run for Ken's new Attack Point GPS Video tracking. He had been working on this new application but had no video or tracking to test it. I mentioned to Joel that I thought it could revolutionize coaching for AR and O. He thought the idea was so cool (and had wanted to draw attention to AP anyways) that he wrote an article about Taco-C's initial question on this here thread, our testing and of course the all things awesome about Ken and AP. Check it out:

http://www.breathemag.ca/component/content/article...
Jan 19, 2011 9:17 AM # 
Hammer:
http://o-training.net/blog/2011/01/19/improve-your...
Jul 4, 2012 9:37 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
Hey Ken!

Did something happen to the QR integration? It doesn't seem to be working any longer. And mine.

Or just my MacBook Air 1440x900 screen?

Did I miss something (besides 25 minutes of video and some music to drown out my wheezing)? I finally got around to some Smiley Cam work, and the QR piece is the compelling bit.
Jul 4, 2012 10:20 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
Never mind, that is the case. Hughmac3's bigger monitor worked as expected.

This discussion thread is closed.