Discussion: Route choice of the week

I hope this is a public competition.
http://iamsinht.com/is/orienteering/vagval3_ian.jp...

That's a nice route, very similar to what I had in mind. So hard to plan on the run, I would think. Anyway, shouldn't you be asleep?

Said the desert to the grain of sand. Pseudo-ephedrine does strange things to sleep patterns.

It's hard to plan the route without thinking about it for a few minutes. I guess you might be able to do an incremental approach - plan the first 20% of the route quickly, then figure the rest out on the way? Is that the correct approach?

Except that here in the desert it's past lunchtime.

I would say, plan the last 20% of the route quickly and then look for good lines that bring you to your attack. For example, in this leg, if you started planning with the first 20%, you may be tempted to run more straight or right out of the control, so I think it's good to have the general ideal of the entire leg planned before you leave the flag.

hmmm, tricky, this post is going to make me late for work :)

My initial route is shown here... but after looking at Ian's I think that it might make most sense to leave the control and go through the Northern tip of the wide field. Scrambling up the ridge to the right of the green patch might not be so bad...

I worked backward from the control deciding a) that I wanted to attack from above and that meant that I probably wanted to come through the parking lot by the pond. Then it was tricky to decide the best way to get there... the road is tempting but added some distance.

I took a different route... with the goal of minimising downhill and steeeep climbs.
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/2C4cOP7jtkCq...
I'll have another think about it later.

Sorry the resolution is crap.

Where is this map? It would be really interesting to test the optimality of our routes in one of the following ways, in decreasing order of preference:

1. Visiting and running each of them
2. Recruiting a local orienteer to run each of the routes and report back
3. Loading the map into Catching Features and running

(2) and (3) fail to account for our respective strengths.

Looks Eastern European to me, so that might be a bit difficult! Looks like number 2 may be a better option...

I would have started out taking the same trail route as Ross but would have stayed on the trail longer before cutting to the parking lot and taking the road.
Who is this course setter???? ...must be a Russian ;^)

I saw Ross's route first but after thinking about it decided on more or less what Neil said.

My instinct was the same as Neil's as well. Too much dropping out of the start on the more direct routes.

The map is in Italy. (http://fiso.it/01_federazione/07_impianti_cartogra...)

I did the OCAD drawing for it in 1998 and worked in the organization of several events. We used it as 2 separate maps: upper and lower.

When the snow melts I can try to ask someone to do the run. Or you can have a copy if you are nearby.

That map app is awesome! It is exactly what I have been talking about writing for a while. It's really nice to be able to scroll around and see what maps exist.

Who do we need to talk to set it up in the US?

Also, when is CSU going to hold a training camp in Trento?

edwarddes: http://omaps.worldofo.com/gmaps.php is pretty close.

Kinda similar in that it uses google maps, but not similar in how I would like to use it. The cool part about the italian version is that it shows you a preview of the O-map so you can see what area it covers. I would like to see that combined with a database of map information so you you can scroll around and find a map, and then get the contact info for the club that owns it, who mapped it, when it was mapped, scale etc. Even better would be to click through to a list of events that were held on that map, with courses, or route gadget like info.

http://www.obasen.nu/kartbanken/ is also a good one. zoom in to see map boundaries and [non-overlaid] map images.

edwarddes: me, and the owners of the maps you want to display