I listened to that same Fresh Air episode on a run a few days ago, and although I'm not sure I'd quite say it was the worst interview I heard, it was certainly down near the bottom! Sometimes the subject is something that I don't think I have any interest in at all, but it winds up being very engaging and interesting (a recent example would be the Alice Cooper interview), so I don't tend to channel-hop when I'm out on a run. But for this one, I should have done some channel-hopping ...