Discussion: Following WOC online
in: Orienteering; News;
Does anyone know how we'll be able to follow WOC online next week? I haven't been able to find anything about it on the WOC website.
A couple of days ago there was a live woc page linked on nopesport at http://live.woc2011.fr/
Just tried to go get this link though and it is no longer there, so I guess they're working on it. I can't remember everything, but life results for the qualis, results, GPS and Arena TV link for the finals. It didn't say anything about whether it would be a paid service or not.
Hopefully that page will be live again soon!
The live links rarely become active until (usually) within 24 hours of the event.
Also keep an eye on World of O
WOC 2011 France Early Preview
Attackpoint Event Link
WOC 2011 official website
the WorldofO page should tell you everything you need to know.
The liveblog is up and running already, they're doing tests atm apparently so I'm anticipating things being up and running by Saturday morning.
Jan Kochbach says:"
There will be a LiveBlog at World of O (in cooperation with the WOC organizers) for all races. As in 2010 and 2009 I am dependent on help from the o-community to keep the LiveBlog alive and moderate comments during the races as I’ll be in the forest taking photos. It looks like I will again be able to provide some WOC T-shirts or other effects to the ones helping in on moderating the LiveBlog – please contact me by e-mail email@example.com if you have the possibility to help out. It will be fun – I can assure you!
There will be GPS-tracking for all runners in the middle final, sprint final and long final – and for selected runners for the relay. There will be no GPS-tracking for the qualification races. Note that the GSM/GPRS coverage is not perfect in all of the WOC areas – especially the long distance, and thus the quality of the GPS signals will probably vary. Also, I am waiting for final confirmation that the GPS tracking will be live on the Internet or only to be seen on TV/big screen broadcasts.
There will be a full TV-production from sprint final and relay, and as far as I know a somewhat smaller scale production from the other finals. The big screen arena production from the finals and the relay will be sent free on the internet.
There will be live results. Note that there is no internet connection and poor mobile phone coverage for the middle and long qualification. The organizers state that they will “try to send live results even for qualifications with a [small] satellite connection”.
so no GPS until Tuesday. Don't need it for quali's anyway, as long as the maps and results are up fairly quickly.
For those who are interested in following the live TV coverage, the sprint finals and relays will be available via SVT Play (note: Swedish commentary). As far as I understand these transmissions on SVT Play will be available globally.
Any word on who's running when and all that good stuff?
Also the swiss sports tv (http://www.schweizersportfernsehen.ch
) covers the sprint and relay. Comments are probably in German though (maybe even Swiss German)
You can find Update One on the Canadian Team Blog
here. There will many more posted during WOC.
Start times for the Canadian Team in the Long Quali posted on the blog!
WOC Live appears to be up with some information:
Here are all the long qual start times tomorrow (GMT + 1):
JOSPE Alex USA 11:33
CROCKER Alison USA 12:06
SAEGAR Samantha USA 12:42
RILEY Wyatt USA 13:46
LAUGHLIN Jordan USA 13:55
SMITH Ross USA 14:49
Go USA !!
All the best to team USA!! Good luck!!
Looks like an excellent run by Ali in Heat#1...... Under an hour....
No doubt, and a good start for Sam too.
And Wyatt starts in about 8 minutes. I think I need a third screen for all these results windows... Hoping to see Sam's name pop up on the Ctrl #10 window soon...
Ali is currently 10th with 25 finished in on Heat #1 - That should be good enough to make the final!! Go Ali!!
Great job team GB, Ali and Carol! I think that's the first time in a long time all our women have qualified.
Nice shot of Ali finishing...
Any update on GB guys much appreciated. Stuck at work on a stpuid computer that is blcking WOC live results!! Arghh!
I'm having trouble getting anything on the WOC live site, any ideas?
Go to World of O ... they also have links to a Finnish site w/ frequent updates
Heat#1 Ctrl#5 - Doug Tullie 11th of 27 4:36 back of Daniel Hubman
Heat#2 Ctrl#5 - Hector Haines 13 of 33 4:50 back of Tero
Heat#3 Ctrl#5 - Oli Johnson 2nd of 28, 7sec back of Phillipe Adamski
thanks! Worldofo blog blocked as well.
Doug 10th in his heat currently, from the start list penultimate starter has finished, so looks like only one more person who could beat him.
Hector 17th in his, 3.5 mins down on 15th
Oli 10th currently in his heat.
Good Job Ali and Carol! Good luck in the final.
Congrats Carol and Ali. Terrain looks tough. Slow winning times. French men looking good for the relay.
Don't count on it yet. We've seen a number of bees and the forest is filled with pointy sticks
Great run by Carol. Tough luck for Louise who not only missed out by less than 30 seconds but ran a time that would have been top ten in other heats. Was is Jimmy Durante or Louise Oram that said "If it wasn't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all"
My photos from today's long qual
are now posted. Only the (S)mall versions linked to each thumb and the (M)edium res versions linked below are there.Clem's better ones should be up tomorrow.
The first few pics on page 1 were taken in the terrain in a model area adjacent to the middle terrain. Scrappy stuff to say the least. If there's time tomorrow I'll post map snippets of those features. Dark under the canopy, so I under-exposed and "pushed" them in post-processing. A few taken with the flash. The remainder of the photos are untouched.
When will I learn not to bother with trying to follow the first day of WOC/JWOC online? Every year it never works! Can't understand why they don't get their act together and test it well before the event.
Hopefully it will be better today.
I was kind of joking about the bees - but in the spectator race this morning I got seven stings! First aid tent had a long, long line-up of stingees and they ran out of the ointment they were using to treat the bites.
The main issues with today's spectator races were the parking and the toilets (have you ever heard that before?). Parking was along the access road with some of the last to arrive having almost 4km to walk along the road, uphill all the way. The toilets - well lets just say that seven port-a-potties for 3,500 runners and they will quickly reach capacity. Yikes!
But the courses were fantastic. It was great fun to jump into the long-distance qualification terrain. THere was light rain so the rocks and cut branches were extra slippery. I was moving relatively slowly through the forest, and maybe because of that found the navigation a bit easier than I thought it would be. And with so many people in the forest, most controls were easy to spot as someone else was probably standing at it trying to figure out either a) where they are, or b) how on earth to get to the next control.
good run from Emily Kemp (perhaps an error early). Will it be good enough to qualify in her very first WOC race? fingers crossed!
AWESOME start for Ali Crocker! Wow.
Very impressive run so far by Ali!
Looks like two finals for Ali !
Congrats to Ali and Louise!!! And Emily and Carol were soo close.
Patrick G just misses out. In fact it looks like all the North American men will be out of the Middle final (based on results to the radio controls), with Ross Smith (USA) being closest to qualifying at the moment.
The French men are less dominant today (yesterday they won all three heats) - but TG is up to his old tricks with a two minute (!!!) lead.
TG's lead just got shattered though....
Wow. That sets up a very exciting final!!
Awesome results - Go USA!
Here are my photos from the Long Qualification.
Photos from the Middle Qualification.
Thanks for sharing the photos! There appear to be a few countries competing this year that I don't remember from previous years, so that was fun to see!
Photo credit: Dave Yee
There appear to be a few countries competing this year that I don't remember from previous years, so that was fun to see!
Yes! Like Barbados:
I asked them if they did much orienteering at home, and one of them said, "Yes, but it's nothing like this!" Indeed, there aren't many places that would prepare you for this...
P.S. Don't forget to check out the Team USA blog http://www.usa-orienteering.blogspot.com
, which includes some photos, results, and interviews. The interview of Ali bouncing with joy after the middle Q is priceless!
Barbados is considered to be part of North America, so they could come to a North American champs someday.
you mean, they could host...
I was thinking we should invite them along to a training weekend in the fall. Maybe someone could run a couple of extra days during the week to make the trip a bit more worthwhile.
I was thinking NAOC 2012 should make sure to invite them... and to include them in the BK scoring.
Sandy and Clem are distributing packs of their NAOC 2012 fliers here and will definitely be talking to the Barbados group.
This makes me wonder if any other "North American" countries have slipped under our radar.
Greenland has some active orienteering clubs, and is geographically a part of North America.
We've considered Greenland in the past. The problem is not with orienteering in Greenland, which is well established; nor its geographic location—it's pretty well agreed it's in North America; it is with the general lack of sports organizations in Greenland. There is no Olympic Committee, mostly because the IOC wouldn't recognize one. As soon as they can form a national Federation, they should be invited to NAOC.
Well said T/D because then a Dane could win the NAOC and we sure wouldn't want a loop hole that would allow a scandinavian citizen to win the NAOC would we. oh wait...already happened.
Anyway, good luck to all in the sprints tomorrow. Should be some exciting online WOC coverage. how many North Americans to the final?
A Scandinavian didn't exactly "win" the NAOC. Team USA won the BK cup. The Scandinavians ended up beaten by quite a few bona fide North Americans in the process.
Erik Nystrom took a gold away from Mike Smith at 2008 sprint NAOC
already happened! Never again...please
To be fair, hammer, you guys apparently weren't upset enough about Nystrom to bother yourselves with clarifying the rules for NAOC 2010. Has anything been done about this for 2012, or are you just complaining?
was just having fun with the Greenland and NAOC comment dude!
Enjoy watching WOC.
We had a beer with the Smith boys and a Burnett or two last night and I overheard that committees have been formed on both sides and a proposal has been made about the eligibility rules for 2012. It sounded good to me. I'm hopeful an agreement will be reached soon. Our new President is on the committee, among others.
I just received my green card. Will I be eligible in 2012 so that I should start training? :)
Sprint qualification under way. Live results aren't working, which isn't really good enough at this level.
18:43 for Samantha, unofficial, heat B I think
I didn't hear Ali Crocker's results -- we're listening to the radio feed, and lose it from time to time
19:40? for Carol Ross
Looks like Ali C totally rocked, based on this photo
of preliminary results; there is some problem with the results posting online so this is all I could find.
From the sketchy internet photos it looks like Louise and Emily made it as well.
Woohoo - both Sam & Ali in the finals! (Preliminary - radio)
norAm runners to final: sam, ali, louise, will (prelim)
What the heck?? What has gone wrong with the organization. Even lineups for the download with runners waiting several minutes after crossing the finish line to get their times read. No information for the announcer. Results list (one copy only so far as I could see) printed on small piece of paper - no jumbo-tron screen, no large results board. It was chaos this morning - and all the work that went into the great arena and cool-looking courses was diminished by the poor technical situation.
Well, this afternoon will be the first final. We can hope for much better, and more excitement.
Four North American's in the finals - including three women. Could there be a top-16 finish today?
Some technical problems with the results operation -- at one point I heard the frustrated announcer say, "I would give you the positions but nothing works."
But Sam and Ali for the USA and Louise and Will for Canada are all though to the final. Sam was 7th, Ali 6th, pretty good runs for both but not perfect.
More gossip: the final control was in a park. All the grassy areas of the park were mapped with olive green (forbidden). But some runners were spotted running across these areas. Have to see the official results to see if any one was disqualified for this.
AZ-- yeah, some problems. But it was a beautiful site for the event, and we had our own timing guru (Boris) who knew what everyone ran. It was a bit disconcerting that Sam's time didn't get posted for a long long time, but meanwhile Beatrice had gone back to the computer operation (run by Swiss folks!) and seen that Sam's time was fine.
There is supposed to be a big screen this afternoon.
Don't know what places Louise and Will ended up in (something like 10th and 13th???) but a 7th and a 6th is really outstanding.
There was an official by one of the grass routes to the last control taking down bib numbers so it will be interesting to see if indeed they are disqualified.
They also ran out of startlists at the event center/media center well before the start.
I know, I know - I'm being too whiny. It was super cool venue, and great courses (as far as I could tell). I'm just so disappointed - the Sprint of all races to muck up. The race that should show the thrill and excitement of our sport to even the casual observer. And we saw nothing like that - just a bunch of people running into the finish and a lot of confusion. Even the "orienteering experts" had almost no idea what was going on.
The light was awesome in town this morning. Lots of great pics should be up tonight. Almost time to go to Chambery for the final.
Seems like there's a lot of confusion over the number of DSQs and why. Fortunately it also seems that the four North American qualifiers are unaffected. Should be interested to see what the final start list looks like...
Fans at home should be able to watch the sprint final here:
First starts are at 3pm local, 9am on the East coast.
I've got one video up so far from this morning (an interview with Sam) and hope to get the second up (interview with Ali) before we head off to watch the final. There'll be more up later tonight! http://usa-orienteering.blogspot.com
SOFT reports 29 men and 11 women DQ'd, mostly for running on the grass at the end of the course.
From the map it looks like the out of bounds (olive green near the finish) was pretty clear:
The start *may* be delayed to allow runners to prepare.
won't that mess up the TV coverage?
Not sure if the live feed on the Swedish site will also be live on TV. I read somewhere that there was TV coverage starting a bit later, men live, women replay/produced. But that's just rumors and hearsay, like pretty much everything else right now. ;-)
What a disaster. (And what evidence that sprint orienteering can be made into a really silly form of the sport.)
@Cristina - just woke up to a dreadful sprint disaster and bright yellow hairballs from one of our furry friends. What a morning!
Go FastTraxFlunky! Not bad for someone who was away from Orienteering for about 10 years and then makes a WOC final!
Will, like Ali, has really shown what you can do in a short time if you put your mind to it. Go Will!
The Finnish National TV broadcast is live, so changing the start times will be a disaster for the O publicity in Finland and makes everything with TV very hard after WOC2013. I just hope they can keep the Jukola broadcast out of the French messes.
The start has not been delayed: see the WoO live blog. (Sounds like Finnish TV insisted.)
Women's start list
EFFENEY Rachel AUS 15:03 (= 9:03am US EDT)
ORR Hollie GBR 15:14
ORAM Louise CAN 15:17
CRANE Grace AUS 15:20
SAEGER Samantha USA 15:26
CROCKER Alison USA 15:28
INGHAM Lizzie NZL 15:30
HILL Tessa GBR 15:33
ROLLINS Sarah GBR 15:35
Men's start list
MORRISON Ross NZL 16:10
UPPILL Simon AUS 16:14
CRITCHLEY Will CAN 16:16
GRISTWOOD Graham GBR 16:28
STRAIN Murray GBR 16:40
Disaster? stay of the * grass. if it says so. The real disaster is these humps they are wearing without apparent benefit.
"Greenland has some active orienteering clubs, and is geographically a part of North America."
For that matter roughly half of Iceland is geographically part of North America and the great majority of Icelanders live in the North American part.
There are reports that Fraser, Seppi and Pasquasy have appeared at the end of the start list too. Interesting.
Rosie was not impressed that someone went faster than GG.
So it looks like they let the DQ'd people start at the end of the list with a pending protest? That's what I can figure from the broadcast. If so, I join feet... but not for the same reason.
So I'm still waiting for the salacious details of the DQ's and the extra runners in the final...given that there are no official qualification results, does anyone have any links/rumors?
Quick intro to the issue entirely picked up from World of O live blog - so there are probably factual errors! There were two features that shall not be crossed that caused problems on the quali map. One was a small wall that was mapped as half crossable and half uncrossable. Apparently the majority of competitors were caught crossing this wall where it was marked as uncrossable, and thus should have been disqualified. They weren't, because too many of them did it, and the final would have been a shambles.
The other issue was at the end of the courses where an area of the grass in the park was marked as olive green. Athletes were warned about this at the start, but 5 of them were seen to cross it and DQed. Three of these were later reinstated, and allowed to run competitively, but after the women's race - so Ines Brodmann didn't get this chance.
Hopefully someone who knows more about actual facts can tell you more!
I heard that the situation with the 3 men added back in was that they were running the quali and pedestrians got in their way. In order to avoid a collusion they stepped a few footsteps into the out of bounds (I don't know if this was in the park or on the streets).
Therefore, their case was seen as different as they didn't fully cross one of the areas.
I watched the sprint live on Swiss on-line TV. Quite exciting!
The commentary was in Swiss German (fun for me, unfortunate for
nearly everyone else).
I noticed several reruns on the schedule between now and Thursday.
Go to the Schweizer Sport Fernsehen website, look for
Remember to subtract 6 hours for the East Coast (9 for West Coast)
The schedule is in military time
Look for "OL WM Sprint Finale"
Then tune in "live" at the right time.
(May want to call a Swiss friend, to provide some translation - not me, though..)
Becks, according to my math, your explanation only accounts for two DQs. But I heard the number was 40?? Still don't see results on the WOC page. What a mess.
But oh how glorious the final. What a venue. What a course. What an arena.
And, what a run by Ali. If she hadn't run to the base of the castle wall instead of the top of it .... well who knows what single digit result that might have been ;-)
I think they decided not to DQ 40, because that would be silly. Or at least that was what I thought, as that number also included potential medal winners. Maybe they did DQ 40 on top of that, but if they did, I have no idea why! Most of the usual suspects were running in the final though, so I suspect not.
I agree with you on the results thing - I have no idea what Ross's result was this morning, or even if they did DQ so many people.
Power was out in the arena, so no announcing until just now. We finally are getting some video and announcing in the arena
Gotta love Per Forsberg's Swenglish, just heard on the live radio: "now you can see the map and Helen Palmer, the prick there" (prick=dot in Swedish)
"a great run so far by Alison Crocker" 3s behind fastest...
at 2nd intermediate, says Per
Carol & Ali are running neck & neck. Ali 2nd after the long leg. Carol less than a minute behind. These are two super impressive runs! Can they hold on in the heat for the last part of the course.... Come on Carol. Come on Ali.
I really recommend the GPS tracking, it's like nothing I've seen before!
It still won;t load for me, after 20 mins. Time to go to work and open up multiple computers I think!
Anyone know what happened to Ali? Lost her GPS and she doesn't show up in splits or finish
Becks, go to worldofo liveblog, find the links for different servers... gps1,2,..,6
working for me right now
Carol just finished - exhausted but quite proud of her run. Especially the first hour of it, before she "got cooked" on the long leg (her words ;-) Fabulous
What a great course! Technically tough start, then the long long legs, then the tough low visibility finish. So tough.
All the women are in the forest now, and some of the big guns in the men too. It is going to be an amazing finish
Controls #10 & #14 haven't updated in almost a half hour - assuming tech problems. Controls #17 & #19 claim to be updating, but no new runners have appeared in quite some time. I haven't been able to get GPS tracking working this AM, assume my Java is out of date...
Runners showing up on #17 again... everyone at the moment started before Ali..
My word...just saw Kauppi's mistake to the first control. Huge.
Ali is passed 17, she's on the way to 18 on the GPS. No update of the radio contorl though.
Oh no! Mistake on 18 for Ali.
She should still beat Minna... :(
Congratulations, Carol. We're all proud of you.
Ali finishes in 1:59, a bit behind Carol. But she has forgot to punch at the water control. Sigh.
Mina Kauppi has dropped out after not finding the first control - saving herself for a shot at the medals in the middle
The big names are now all in the forest and the racing is getting very exciting!
Anyone else find that if you watch the "Replay", it's actually more up to date than live than "Live"?
did gueorgiou just try loose gonon and fail?
Congratulations to TG. The first man to win individual gold in all three individual disciplines. A popular victory today!
Chembery'esque sprint terrain right here in Canada.
Orienteering Quebec please map this!
Nice call Hammer! Would be an incredible map. ...and at control 7 one will be required to re-enact their best death of General Wolfe.
A bit more about Ali's run. She was close to not starting, hamstring was acting up, but got a message from Sandra and then just kept jogging until her start so it wouldn't tighten up. First part was OK, just a little miss at 2 I think, but she knew right from the outset that she had dead legs.
Hung in there pretty well, took the rightish route on the long leg, thought afterwards left/straight was better. Trouble at 8, lots of bushes, just didn't see it, missed it a little the second time too. Then 17, second time there, you always punch first but this time the way she was coming in the water was first. She took a drink, planning her route to 18, and then just headed off, never punched.
Then problems with 18, came in from the southwest, missed it, out to the road to the north then back in. Time was 1:59+.
So it wasn't a good run physically or mentally. These things happen. Her morale is actually not so bad. And tomorrow is a rest day.
Congrats to Carol!
Thanks for the update on Ali. Glad to hear morale is OK. She hung in there real well!
I'm still dead proud. Someone get that girl a truckload of good cheese and a good rest tomorrow!
Yeah, thanks for the report, Peter! I got up at 4am PDT to watch. I was super excited to see Ali (and Carol) doing so well and pretty disappointed when I saw the DSQ. I was relieved that she hadn't gotten hurt, though; I was starting to wonder what was up when I wasn't seeing updates on her progress.
It's a great achievement just to be running the final, though. Congratulations to Ali, Carol, Louise, Sam, and Will!
Aye, after running two tough sprints the day before, even getting out of bed this morning deserves applause ;)
The world's best orienteering couple
Annika ♥ Thierry
Pics from today's Long Final
Carol and Ali in the finish chute. Sorry my photos of them aren't so great...its hard to cheer and take pictures at the same time :). More at the link above.
We're all proud of you, too, Ali. You made the final, ran a very good race, and turned a few heads. Keep up the good work. Andrew showed me your training log for the past year today; you've worked hard to get where you are and it'll pay off. Best wishes in the Middle Final.
Spectacular effort, Team USA!!
Truly groundbreaking performance this past week, Ali. Heartbreaking today, but it can only get better. All the best in the Middle!
I don't know, I was pretty psyched to see Ali's name pop up on one of the radio controls in 2nd place, only 3sec off the leader at that point. And there were more than just a few names filling out the rest of that list. Sure, I know the higher ranked runners were still to come but it was still pretty cool. And not too long after word came down that Minna Kaupi failed to find #1 and abandoned the course. Ali's got the stuff to make it happen, and one of these days it's all going to click. Can't wait for the middle....
Agree with MJChilds, CHARLIE-B and cmorse!
And the important question:
How much does Thierry Gueorgiou weigh?
Before or after the long?
Some random stuff in no particular order (just trying to get caught up):
Questionable IOF publication
Long Final day
Day before middle final
And some random videos:
The jazz band for the IOF dignitaries before the announcements of World Masters and WOC 2015
From the opening ceremony
Ross in the chute of the long qualifier
Interview with Daniel Hubmann
Interview with Linnea Gustafsson
Middle distance underway. Louise just ran through the arena with a short loop left.
Crocker just started in this very difficult middle final. And she is having problems with the first control already...
Louise finishes in 45:13. I expect that will give her a final placing of about 35th. Let's see how the others do in this ultra-technical terrain...
Lizzie Ingham having a great race. The forest in the vicinity of the TV controls look v. similar to rocky ridge (NAOC 2006).
Very impressive race by Lizzie!
oh no, big mistake for the Kiwi on 3rd last.
OK, will Kauppi find the first control today?
The dominant Swedish women ....are having trouble early today.
I don't think its gunna be a double gold.
Lena Eliasson (SWE) has almost 1 minute lead at first radio! And has a large entourage.
MK hiccuped at 2nd.
Oh no - Lena E is making a mistake on the GPS. "This is most entertaining" says Per F.
At 2nd radio Mina is 4th best. How much fire will she have to catch up
I can say that according to friends who are living on the middle map, the terrain is delightfully runnable.
The train is leaving MK behind.
But wait, there's another Swede ... Helena Jansson
And MK is up into 2nd...
Another Gold for the Swedish women. Fantastic
Helena Jansson coming into the finish right now!
I will enjoy reading the analysis of how much help was gained by the three runners ahead forming a pack. They really seemed to speed up in the middle section of the race.
Is there a live video feed on Swiss or Swedish TV?
He's wearing shorts because he's a kiwi. Thats what they do unless its snowing.
so four guys have now run off the map. new WOC record?
If so, the record will be probably be broken before the end of the day.
They have to have more map than we can see, you couldn't recover that fast of a map
I'm guessing that track we can only see part of actually borders the map.
And that was almost 5. Must have seen the edge of the map and ran along it.
good point. Must be for the relay.
Did they disqualify Chris for wearing shorts?
No, looks like the French decided shorts are acceptable attire.
So will the Thierry Express scoop the three medals?
Two golds, one more to go.
Oberg made no real/big mistakes, Thierry just runs faster
The Norwegians are consistent. Two dead heated and one was a few seconds behind.
Can I please get an Ali and Louise update? Splits don't work on my cell, and I'm nowhere near a computer. Thanks!
So Thierry bags his third medal, and just misses out on a fourth :) Amazing!
1 JANSSON Helena
14:53:00 09:03 (+00:36) 14:47 28:58 33:10
2 BOBACH Ida
14:01:00 09:24 (+00:57) 16:45 (+01:58) 30:13 (+01:15) 34:26 (+01:16)
3 WYDER Judith
14:34:59 10:29 (+02:02) 16:46 (+01:59) 30:34 (+01:36) 35:11 (+02:01)
36 ORAM Louise
13:41:00 11:09 (+02:42) 20:49 (+06:02) 39:16 (+10:18) 45:13 (+12:03)
42 CROCKER Alison
14:19:01 14:45 (+06:18) 22:39 (+07:52) 40:04 (+11:06) 51:15 (+18:05)
Ida Bobach is a beast and I love watching her run! Congrats to her!
Great job to Ali as well! it was a hard course
Thanks. Can't wait to hear more post race analysis. And the relay tomorrow should be fun! Go Canada Go!
@ graeme - go on, explain your comment?
WOT do you actually mean?
Thanks! Thierry is a little shaded by the flag here. It was a target-of-opportunity - the kids set up right where we were shooting. The French fans were off the charts. Add to this scene air horns and banging pots in your ears....lots of jostling for spots on the fence. Insanity. It was awesome.
It looks like a giant Thierry running on a mini version of the terrain.
Check out Marianne's right foot here
Does anyone know what the teams are going to look like tomorrow?
robbie, Mike S, Wil S
not sure of the women's running order
Good luck to them! Hopefully they won't come in more than a couple of places behind Nick, Dave and Marcus!
@old fox - I assume Graeme was alluding to the fact that Thierry had a passenger for a chunk of the long race that also medalled (and just missed out today)?? and a different person got a ride for a large chunk of the course today (after dropping 4 minutes early) and got a good result, but didn't manage Thierry's '4th medal'
@ Invisible - there was a Kiwi on ABC's coverage of the NZ blizzards wearing shorts while snowboarding (with a surfboard!) at Dunedin. Said he didn't own a pair of long pants - in Dunedin?!!??
Are all relay teams going to have GPS? I read on the South African blog that the lower ranked teams won't have gps.
Good fun at team leaders meeting last night when tv people asked for live tracking on all legs
Usually it is just on third leg so the map is not shown until last leg runners are in forest
This was a surprise and so there is lots of chatter about how to keep map and forkings secret from runners on leg 2 & 3
I made a simple web page with links to several folks' WOC photos
to keep them all in one place. Will update with Relay photos this evening. I'm happy to add anyone else's - just let me know.
There we go! This will be a very exciting relay, I can promise! Free webstreaming from Swedish TV: http://svtplay.se/v/2499758/orientering/playexklus...
Lizzie Ingham is having an unbelievable week!
And Sam is totally in touch - go Sam!
Sam is in 11th at second camera control! Go Sam!
In 11th, 0:43 back at control 3! It's close out there.
Very impressive start by S. Saeger (and Lizzi Ingham of course) so far!
And Anni-Maija Fincke retakes the lead from Helena Jansson at Control 6! The packs have stratified considerably - I wonder if the gnarly terrain is making it more difficult for the groups to stay coherent. Perhaps the forking is substantial.
I am not impressed with the vuvuzela quantity or enthusiasm in the arena. Perhaps Thierry Gueorgiou asked them to be removed to prevent the possibility of a vuvuzela-related injury before the relay gold which has eluded him thus far.
Per's tone of voice when he says numbers immediately attracts attention. "1:16, 1:16 behind!"
And here comes Sam to the spectator control! Looking tough, pony tail in full swing.
Dang, that is some trashy forest on the last loop.
Lol Per - "and Czech republic team now in the view. And look at this terrain! It looks like hell out there!"
radio control splits have carol ross 19 minutes behind at control #2. Did she miss a control (wrong fork) and have to go back? then again they don't have lizze having punched it all.
great start for Sam.
It's odd that their data is so sporadic for the radio controls - we clearly saw Lizzie Ingham among the leaders at control 2, but that data isn't on the website right now. I'm pretty sure I saw Carol punch not more than a minute or two behind Sam at control 2, but maybe she had missed the first control. At present, after perhaps five women have finished, 11 women are missing splits for the first radio. Perhaps Carol's split is in error?
WOC live splits has Sam, in the lead, by a minute! ??!!
Sam hands over to Ali, 12th position! Now go Ali!! Go!
(Hungary 2 seconds behind..)
Ian - the party has started, where are you?
Yes, the live splits are completely unreliable. There is precious little information available right now
bshields - on my way; I overslept, but I had to watch the first leg in its entirety. See you in a bit.
Gotta feeling Per F. isn't going to be too happy - unless he has some better info than we do. But I'm not sure, it sounds like he's winging it again
But here is Carol
Here comes Canada! Go Carol!! That hill out of the changeover looks miserable.
Looks as if the radio control for the change over is working - maybe. In which case Carol was in 17th place, 3 minutes behind USA (who were 11th)
Obviously USA had the shorter fork ;-)
yeah there are some issues with the timing. They had Tove a half hour down but it seemed like maybe 20 seconds. Go Emily. Go Ali
27 teams started - so "top half" requires 13th place. Come on Canada.
How bad is the radio information? Ali Crocker in 2nd position, 17 hourse behind the leader. Plus four teams dq'ed in the first leg (well, that would actually be very good news for Canada's top-half dreams ;-)
If my French is right, Emily brought us up and is sending out Louise on the 3rd leg in 11th position!!!!!!!
Holy Crap!!!! Top 10 for Canada?? Come on Louise - run it nice and easy... Everyone else is making huge errors
go Canada !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well done Emily. and with the mistakes at the front top 10 IS possible. Go Louise.
"Finland and Denmark are completely lost out there". Never thought I would ever hear that.
and a big gap behind Canada at the exchange.
"I have absolutely no idea about the forkings" - Per F sounds pissed ;-)
Did anyone notice if Louise has GPS tracker? I haven't seen any tracks from Canada
This is insane. And AZ, don't think so.
How can EVERYONE be making such big mistakes?
This is like watching a car wreck.
What is happening with Louise is what I want to know - can she stay calm?
"It ain't over until the last punch" Per Forsberg
I can't wait for GPS replay! Minna for gold!
It could come down to an insane sprint down the finish chute. Watch out for the little bumpy rocks.
I have never seen anything like this! I wish we had the maps!
Where is Minna going????
This is ridiculous
Any chance that Louise, without tracking, is running clean and has passed everyone? ;-)
Here they come! Wow, what an sprint
(there should have been more punches at pre-warning)
After all, it's MINNA and FINLAND again!
That was a true spectator experience, even over the net.
France has passed Russia and moving into 9th. Does Louise have GPS on?
Canada is 12th!!!!!!!!! Woohooo. Congrats Carol, Emily and Louise.
That's this year's "Top 16". Sweet.
Fantastic Canadian result!!!
Congratulations to Carol, Emily and Louise.
canada: robbie, mike smith, wil smith
What an amazing and exciting relay for the women. Wow!
Terrific result for Canadian women! Great runs, ladies!
GBR prospects disappeared in the first five mins. Rubbish.
AZ, not just top 16 but top half, more important in relay, no? Well done, girls!
Simon in lead group but no GPS...
Women - IRL 24, USA 25. ;)
Yep, sorry, I tend to abbreviate "top 16 or top half" ;-) It was a "top half" result, which is so important for Sport Canada funding. We still need to put together a few more years of at least one top-16 finish before we become eligible for Sport Canada elite funding. This was a huge result for Canada
Was that Italy? Sweden, Italy, France, Norway ... One of these things doesn't belong here, one of these things isn't the same (Sesame Street, for those of you either too old to have watched it or too young to have had kids that did)
Could Gueorgiou have been set up any better? Here he goes, with such speed. He's trying to drop the others on the run to the map pick up!
Okay Thierry...only one person can lose this for you now.
Is anyone rooting for anyone else? He has to do it!
I'm rooting for the Italian ;-)
No, just kidding - come on Thierry!
Canada & USA are having a tough day, and will be fighting for 30th place I think
I'm certainly rooting for a medal for Italy. But there's one colour they can't have.
Surely we could have maps with the GPS now?
Thanks Becks because now we have it.
The organizers must be reading attackPoint. I swear I just saw them add a second punch at the pre-warning ;-)
Grrrrr. No more crowd shots now, GPS or control cameras only.
Thierry has a good break now- 3 peat coming!
Aussies doing OK
@ernst - good coverage on SSF
TG rules- chapeau!
@neil - 3 screens running now :-)
Don't think I've ever seen TG so happy & excited
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh at last!!!!!!!!
That's odd. Would they allow Wil to start if Mike really DQed?
? Wil/Sergei together at first radio, Irish doing well in 23rd now
@ charlie - because of the mass start I guess (or Mike would have handed to wil anyway.....)
I know it's over but looking at the results, it looks like Emily Kemp had a fantastic leg.
edit: Emily was 34:20 on the KKK loop, just 2:26 back of the 1st leg Finnish runner (also on KKK), and 1:23 back of the 2nd leg Swedish runner (also on KKK)
Yes, fantastic leg by Emily. Too bad she wasn't GPS tracked.
Great job by all the NA runners this week - so many good results, and lots of experience gained. The terrain looked fantastic (at least on my computer, when I could enlarge it to a point where I could read it).
Just had a great time watching leg 3 top 6 women's teams GPS tracking with my son. It definitely proved to him that even the best in the world make mistakes out there, and sometimes they still win! Never assume that mistakes have ruined your chances of a decent result.
Is 12th place Canada's best WOC relay result ever?
Congratulations to Canada's Women on their excellent finish!
Where are the men's results?
I found the historical results.
The Canadian men were 8th in 1978 and the women were 10th in 1978. Still, I think that the best Canadian relay result since 1987 is something to be mighty proud of :)
This is the first time the Canadian women have placed in the top 50% at WOC. The men have achieved that three time (1978, 1987, 1997). We have had higher placings but there were also many fewer teams.
So Canada's best WOC relay result for men was 1987 in France and now best ever for women is 2011 in France.
Here is a quick summary of Canada's Top 16 Relay Results at WOC.
**** indicates years that were also top 50%
placing (year, total teams) ***** indicates top 50%
8 (1978, 20) *****
9 (1987, 23) *****
11 (1974, 15)
11 (1976, 18)
11 (1979, 19)
12 (1983, 22)
15 (1997, 33 ) *****
15 (1981, 21 )
10 (1978, 17)
11 (1981, 18)
12 (2011, 27) ******
12 (1979, 17)
14 (1974, 14)
15 (1976, 18)
16 (2005, 22)
16 (2010, 28)
Pics from the Relay
. Also linked here
. Another nice day for spectating...just a little warm in the sun.
Had a camera malfunction right at the end when Sergei and Wil were coming in from the last leg. Didn't notice it until it was...too late. Looks like the sensor cover is not opening completely with the mirror - Its sticking partway up. Lost a few good shots of those guys coming through the spectator loop and finally heading up the ramp over the bridge. Especially sad to miss these because Sergei was ahead of Wil ;) However I did get some good shots of them heading out on the 3rd leg.
Fantastic race to watch today ladies!! So exciting. Way to go Canada!
Here's an interesting one of Wil on his way out on the third leg with Jordan in the background coming in from the second leg:
Great shot! You'd hardly notice he hasn't a map :)
He knows Sergei will pass him and he won't need it...
Map boards were off the end of the chute someplace, outside the arena. I never saw them.
What, of the Smiths running for Canadia?
Apparently, according to the IOF. Their 50 year commemorative magazine had a similar photo to the one above (a little older - no grey hairs) with that caption.
The back cover
of the IOF 50th anniversary issue of Orienteering World.
Not sure if someone already mentioned this, but Emily Kemp is a minor star here in France. The French fans in the arena know her and there was a cry of "emmmmilllleeeeeeeee!!" whenever she ran through. She had an awesome run today. Really impressive.
but Emily Kemp is a minor star here in France
Eddie, you of all people should not be commenting on people's size like that.
I think he was referring to her age.
Eddie is an astronomer, right?
Was Emily's run the best ever by a Canadian at the WOC?
Looks like Swiss Sports TV will be showing reruns of the Relays on the following dates/times: (2 hour show)
We 8/24, 23:00 (5 pm Eastern US)
Th, 8/25, 17:00 (1 pm Eastern US)
I repeat that (with correction)
Looks like Swiss Sports TV will be showing reruns of the Relays on the following dates/times: (2 hour show)
We 8/24, 23:00 (5 pm Eastern US)
Th, 8/25, 17:00 (11 am Eastern US)
Emily ran a great race today.I think her % behind on her leg is a wee bit worse than Ted's in 1985 though relays and individual are hard to compare...
Best % behind winner: Ted de St Croix (1985) 10th place 7.8% back
Best placing: Sandy Hott (2005) 9th place 16.9% back
I don't have the results but I believe Oivind Naess' opening leg in 1987 WOC relay (also in France) was only a minute or two down on the leaders so was probably the best ever % behind a winner/leader in a WOC race for Canada.
And more of Dave Yee's relay photos here
Here's a video
to accompany the photo above. The loud, continuous rumble of the arena doesn't come through in the video. It was definitely orienteering cheering turned up to 11.
Awesome, Christina. We watched it online as it happened but did not see the crowd's reaction. Jubilation for the French team and all who watched and hoped they'd win.
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