Discussion: Umstead 007: Team Fundraiser IV
in: Orienteering; General
Jan 25, 2007 11:31 PM
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The site for the upcoming US Team A meet Fundraiser is active with online registration, event center details, list of hotels, event format, schedule, etc etc. The Fundraiser is not a bare-bones event this year. There will be T-shirts, awards, and a pig feast.
Jan 27, 2007 7:55 PM
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Nick:
under fees , is listed USOF discount (only )..I believe it's the first time that I noticed is not listed as USOF/COF/IOF,..not that it matter too much , but is this ..new ?
Jan 28, 2007 1:37 AM
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Nick:
any other Ontarians ( GTA ) thinking about going there ? small chances driving ( but you never know ).
thanks. T/D.
thanks. T/D.
Jan 28, 2007 4:16 PM
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Don't forget the nice technical shirts! If you came to the FLO event last year, the club and their local adventure gear provider did a remarkable job with those green shirts with a giant manatee on the back. Well, BOK and Axis Gear are working hard to bring you something even better this year. These shirts are equally perfect for the woods, trail running, or for hanging out at the finish. Fabric is close to 100% polyester fiber. Dries quickly. Way fashionabler than the pajamas! There will be an opportunity to order shirts at the event if you see them and you like them, but at a substantial extra cost and for a later delivery.
Feb 6, 2007 6:49 PM
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Fares from most places in the States to Raleigh for the weekend of the event are in the low $200s. You can avoid some of the carbon dioxide emissions by not renting a car, taking a shuttle to the event center, eating nearby (the Indian restaurant within walking distance in particular is quite nice) and carpooling to the event with fellow orienteers. Running to Day 1 and Day 3 starts from the event center and some airport hotels is also possible (~40–50 minutes each way).
We will offer a model area on Friday and Saturday to acquaint you with the unique mapping style of fallen trees, rootstocks, and small quartz piles. Preliminary course details have been posted.
We will offer a model area on Friday and Saturday to acquaint you with the unique mapping style of fallen trees, rootstocks, and small quartz piles. Preliminary course details have been posted.
Feb 6, 2007 9:42 PM
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Possibly - I just made a defensive rental car reservation - but the desirability of minimising carbon emissions dictate that I at least try to be in a full car for the whole trip to North Carolina and back, not just the driving while in North Carolina
Feb 6, 2007 10:51 PM
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Maybe if you just avoid the Indian restaurant, you would get enough carbon dioxide credits to afford a less full car.
Feb 10, 2007 7:59 PM
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Anyone interested in sharing a hotel room? I may not get there until late(ish) friday evening, depending on my work schedule.
Feb 11, 2007 1:51 PM
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Less yellow questions, more WRE points! It looks like we're clear on the Men's WRE, but will need two more ranked women to sign up (and finish the course) to award points. The same old song...
Joseph says there's absolutely no way the dinner will run out of food.
Joseph says there's absolutely no way the dinner will run out of food.
Feb 11, 2007 3:11 PM
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The IOF's world ranking link seems to be broken. Does anyone have a good link or happen to know which N. American women "count"?
I'll bake cookies for any of the women that need extra incentive to go. ;-)
I'll bake cookies for any of the women that need extra incentive to go. ;-)
Feb 11, 2007 4:01 PM
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The link's been broken for a few days now... Yay for the new IOF website...
Feb 11, 2007 8:04 PM
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From the top of my head, cookie recipients would be Samantha and Hillary, with Sandra probably needing more than a giant cake to come over.
Feb 11, 2007 9:44 PM
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PG:
IOF World Rankings as at January 28th 2007
World Ranking for Men showing all ranked athletes for United States
Current (Prior
ID Rank Month) Points Forename Surname
USA41 256 (255) 3751 Boris Granovskiy
USA11 262 (259) 3704 Eric Bone
USA197 279 (275) 3564 John Fredrickson
USA24 312 (302=) 3408 Eddie Bergeron
USA23 339 (324=) 3266 Clem McGrath
USA36 380 (377) 2972 Gregory Balter
USA114 390 (388) 2894 Ross Smith
USA158 397 (390) 2873 Peter Gagarin
USA12 402 (395) 2818 Joe Brautigam
USA2 424= (427) 2705 James Scarborough
USA39 474 (466) 2425 Ken Walker Jr.
USA37 504 (498) 2242 Sergey Velichko
USA61 555 (532) 2107 Vadim Masalkov
USA53 575 (557=) 2028 Michael Eglinski
USA101 588 (567) 1991 Ed White
USA136 725 (724) 1558 Leif Anderson
USA212 738 (734) 1514 Erin Schirm
USA208 777 (769) 1360 Brendan Shields
USA080 793 (785) 1312 Ted Good
USA157 797 (789=) 1293 Andrew Komm
USA42 806= (798=) 1255 Wyatt Riley
USA102 969= (975=) 1037 Mikell Platt
USA067 1164= (1169=) 857 Grant Staats
USA130 1357 (1360) 653 Tom Hollowell
IOF World Rankings as at January 28th 2007
World Ranking for Women showing all ranked athletes for United States
Current (Prior
ID Rank Month) Points Forename Surname
USA171 122 (119) 4082 Samantha Saeger
USA7 126= (126) 4046 Pavlina Brautigam
USA21 160 (156) 3714 Sandra Zurcher
USA148 213 (210) 3081 Viktoria Brautigam
USA196 231 (220) 2823 Hillary Saeger
USA4 314 (301) 1937 Erin Nielsen
USA54 372 (377) 1548 Angelica Riley
USA103 386 (390) 1470 Suzanne Armstrong
Feb 13, 2007 10:33 PM
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So, Angelica is indeed ranked. We need one more. Cookies should go to Samantha, Hillary, Erin, Viktoria, or better yet all of them.
Feb 13, 2007 10:45 PM
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The rankings link is active again, and it shows that I am ranked. So is Cristina, if she's coming.
Feb 13, 2007 11:04 PM
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The average of the points needs to be over 600 (indicated by the "R" in one of the columns on the left) in order for the runner to count for the race ranking. Curiously, zero point scores do not average in, and this is why Angelica is ranked.
Feb 14, 2007 4:20 AM
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In keeping with the ancient-history motif of the past Fundraisers, here are the Blue results of the last A meet held at Umstead Park (March, 2006).
Day 1: 10.6 km, 234 m climb
Day 2: 10.7 km, 318 m climb
I would not expect sub-6 min/km times at any day of this year's event mainly
because there are plenty of dead trees on the ground. I may be wrong.
Day 1: 10.6 km, 234 m climb
1. Vladimir Gusiatnikov 61:45
2. Gregory Balter 69:35
3. Rick Oliver 74:12
4. Wyatt Riley 74:50
5. Geoffrey Jeram 78:00
6. Anders Eriksson 81:04
7. Martin Farenfield 81:09
8. Clai Gardner 81:40
9. Paul Bennett 86:03
10. Bernard Breton 89:26
11. Tom Murphy 92:23
12. Joseph Ratterman 98:27
13. Ralf Becker 101:34
14. Declan Hennelly 103:32
15. Tim Good 108:16
16. Paul Regan 120:17
17. Jon Nash 120:25
18. Rob Stevens 125:17
19. Brian Greata 126:27
20. Stephen Stibler 128:50
21. Ken Harrison 144:24
22. Artem Kazantsev 159:27
Duncan Larkin DNF
Day 2: 10.7 km, 318 m climb
1. Vladimir Gusiatnikov 60:16
2. Gregory Balter 62:41
3. Rick Oliver 66:47
4. Martin Farenfield 73:27
5. Wyatt Riley 73:55
6. Anders Eriksson 75:31
7. Paul Bennett 77:54
8. Geoffrey Jeram 80:06
9. Rob Stevens 82:56
10. Clai Gardner 89:39
11. Bernard Breton 100:25
12. Declan Hennelly 105:46
13. Ralf Becker 108:01
14. Artem Kazantsev 108:15
15. Tim Good 109:13
16. Stephen Stibler 114:10
17. Joseph Ratterman 115:29
18. Jon Nash 118:07
19. Paul Regan 125:24
20. Brian Greata 138:57
21. Duncan Larkin 143:50
22. Ken Harrison 150:25
I would not expect sub-6 min/km times at any day of this year's event mainly
because there are plenty of dead trees on the ground. I may be wrong.
Feb 14, 2007 8:03 AM
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Was this A-Meet held in secret? I don't remember hearing of this last March!
Feb 14, 2007 8:33 AM
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That's ok. I don't remember it either and apparently I was there. I think it was a lot earlier than March 06.
Feb 14, 2007 2:50 PM
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Do you know if the Anders Eriksson in the results was Anders Eriksson from OK Linne?
Feb 14, 2007 5:29 PM
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I don't. Does Mats Froberg know?
Tomorrow is the last day to register at the early fee level. You can register until the day of the event, but fees will be greater.
Check out the event page. It has been contiuously updated, and now has course parameters, information about the map and the Model event.
Tomorrow is the last day to register at the early fee level. You can register until the day of the event, but fees will be greater.
Check out the event page. It has been contiuously updated, and now has course parameters, information about the map and the Model event.
Feb 19, 2007 6:02 PM
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It is not my intention to take the discussion away from the physical specifications of Vlad 10 years ago and now, but I'll do it anyway.
I am arriving Saturday morning at the Raleigh airport. What is the best way to get to the day 2 Start/Finish area from there. Are there shuttles/ public transportation going through / near the park ?
Is anyone else arriving Saturday morning?
I read the comment from the event web site that both the airport and the park share a boundary :) Is it a crossable one or uncrossable, and if it is the former what is the bearing to the start/finish area of day 2 from the main concourse of the airport :) I could jog across the airfield if I only knew the right direciton.
I am arriving Saturday morning at the Raleigh airport. What is the best way to get to the day 2 Start/Finish area from there. Are there shuttles/ public transportation going through / near the park ?
Is anyone else arriving Saturday morning?
I read the comment from the event web site that both the airport and the park share a boundary :) Is it a crossable one or uncrossable, and if it is the former what is the bearing to the start/finish area of day 2 from the main concourse of the airport :) I could jog across the airfield if I only knew the right direciton.
Feb 19, 2007 9:21 PM
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mata:
No, I don't know anything about the 1996 Anders Eriksson. Probably one of the most common names in Sweden. The only thing I know is that I will be there this year.
Feb 19, 2007 9:24 PM
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I thought it was all about Boris 11 years ago vs. now, no?
Yes you can run from the airport to Day 2 start, but it's a bit far for a warmup, I'd say about 13 km, and that's without major obstacles. Umstead is a huge park! (there is a 100-mile run held in it.) There is a little bit of officially inaccessible land (airport property) you'd have to go through. I have. There are no trolls, TSA, cameras, land mines, or barbed wire there. Just a lot of unmapped rootstocks.
Raleigh seems sorely devoid of public transit. There are hotels right next to Day 2 start with airport shuttles, but usually they don't like to transport people who aren't staying in these hotels. A taxi ride would be about $20. So, I think your best bet would be to take the hotel shuttle to the event center. If they ask you if you have a reservation, answer that you do. Then, arrange for someone to pick you up from the event center hotel. You can e-mail me with your arrival time, and we'll arrange a ride for you.
Yes you can run from the airport to Day 2 start, but it's a bit far for a warmup, I'd say about 13 km, and that's without major obstacles. Umstead is a huge park! (there is a 100-mile run held in it.) There is a little bit of officially inaccessible land (airport property) you'd have to go through. I have. There are no trolls, TSA, cameras, land mines, or barbed wire there. Just a lot of unmapped rootstocks.
Raleigh seems sorely devoid of public transit. There are hotels right next to Day 2 start with airport shuttles, but usually they don't like to transport people who aren't staying in these hotels. A taxi ride would be about $20. So, I think your best bet would be to take the hotel shuttle to the event center. If they ask you if you have a reservation, answer that you do. Then, arrange for someone to pick you up from the event center hotel. You can e-mail me with your arrival time, and we'll arrange a ride for you.
Feb 20, 2007 7:15 AM
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That true. You are right.
Taking a ride to the event center sounds as a good idea.
Taking a ride to the event center sounds as a good idea.
Feb 20, 2007 4:32 PM
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I'm also looking for someone to share a ride with for the whole weekend, I'll help with gas etc. I'm arriving Friday at 2:30 and would like to try to make it to the Sprint Start... Not sure if that'll happen.
I'm also hoping to stay in the Dorms so if someone staying in the dorms has room for a straggler let me know.
Thanks.
I'm also hoping to stay in the Dorms so if someone staying in the dorms has room for a straggler let me know.
Thanks.
Feb 20, 2007 4:46 PM
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The event center, the Days Inn, still has rooms, and the special rate they are offering will expire tomorrow. (Unfortunately I just learned about it!) So, those of you who made travel plans and have entered, should make your hotel reservation right away: (919) 469-8688.
Feb 20, 2007 4:59 PM
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The question of whether the dorms will have the required minimum number of people interested in them has been my excuse recently for holding off on making decisions. But time is getting short. Christoph - why don't we say I'm your ride for the weekend (although I'm not promising to get you at the airport on Friday if it interferes with my start - maybe Vlad et al will be willing to let you run quite late and me close to 2pm and I could come get you after racing)? Up to two other hopeful dorm stayers can sign on as well. Nikolay by all means if he wanted to stay in the dorms, though I'll hope he's arriving quite early Saturday morning since the WRE rules will preclude any monkeying with the start draw to make it easy for me to come get him close to or after the first start. If the dorms fall through, the plan stays the same except we book a hotel room.
Feb 20, 2007 9:30 PM
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Is the event still short on ranked females? I may actually be able to go, which means I could deliver the cookies in person.
Feb 20, 2007 11:24 PM
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Cookie recipients will be revealed shortly. Still working, but it looks like we will not be short on ranked females, with a cushion.
Also, we are quite flexible with the start window for the Sprint. At least one person requested a 4:30 pm start. As long as you promise to get out of the park by 7 pm, you're good. It will turn into a night Sprint around 6:30 pm, and you'll have to make arrangements for downloading at the event center, but the SI controls will stay on. The park, however, will lock the gate at 7:00 pm sharp, and if your car is not out by that time, you may have to run the 13–20 km to your accommodations.
Also, we are quite flexible with the start window for the Sprint. At least one person requested a 4:30 pm start. As long as you promise to get out of the park by 7 pm, you're good. It will turn into a night Sprint around 6:30 pm, and you'll have to make arrangements for downloading at the event center, but the SI controls will stay on. The park, however, will lock the gate at 7:00 pm sharp, and if your car is not out by that time, you may have to run the 13–20 km to your accommodations.
Feb 21, 2007 6:21 AM
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Jon, I am arriving at 5:55 Saturday morning. that was one of the requirements when I was looking for a flight To get there early. I am ok for the dorms too.
I have made a car reservation just in case, but if I can avoid using it that would be great.
To recognize me easier at the airport, I'll be the one with gators and semi-transperent pants. :)
I have made a car reservation just in case, but if I can avoid using it that would be great.
To recognize me easier at the airport, I'll be the one with gators and semi-transperent pants. :)
Feb 21, 2007 7:28 PM
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is there anyone arriving or willing to pick me up around 10ish on that friday and possibly for the rest of the event
Feb 22, 2007 11:05 PM
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Cookies should go to Pavlina, Viktoria, Angelica, and Samantha.
Feb 26, 2007 9:44 PM
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Start times have been posted. The WRE start draw is on Thursday evening.
You can click on the column heading to sort.
You can click on the column heading to sort.
Mar 1, 2007 5:48 PM
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The event notes (Bulletin 3/4) have been posted. Sorry for the formatting (wasn't me).
The Model event may be well worth checking out to avoid some map interpretation surprises.
The Model event may be well worth checking out to avoid some map interpretation surprises.
Mar 2, 2007 3:00 PM
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Is anyone still in need of a ride from the airport on Saturday? Contact me if so.
The WRE draw occurred last night, and the start times have been updated with its results.
The WRE draw occurred last night, and the start times have been updated with its results.
Mar 5, 2007 6:02 PM
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We apologize for the problems that occurred, in particular the delayed Sprint start, the misprinted control description on Red M on Day 2, and especially for the delay on starting the Blue runners on Day 3.
Here's what happened on Day 3 (long version of the story). I dropped an SI unit in the woods when putting out controls on the afternoon of Day 2. I placed the control and the water, and had an extra SI unit, but had nothing to make the code with. I was going to put a replacement unit after dinner on Saturday with a headlamp, but was dissuaded, being told it was virtually certain I'd get arrested or at least interrogated for being in the park after dark.
So, the unit was instead placed on Sunday morning. The person who placed it had another water control to place early on Sunday, a fairly close one to the start and the assembly area. The latter task got delayed, and when it was finally done around 8:30, he was unsure that he had found the right location because there was no streamer.
Eric and I raced to the location. While Eric stayed in the car, I ran and found the streamer (around 9:06), but no control. I searched about 50 meters around for the misplaced control, with no luck. I then put out a replacement control at 9:15, while Eric rushed to the start and asked to hold the Blue runners. The concern was that there was another control in the area with the same code and with water. Five people on Blue had already started.
I ran a bit more around the area, trying to locate the other control, again with no luck. At 9:26, the first Blue starter, Joe, arrived (the replacement control had been there for about 11 minutes). Unfortunately Joe made a mistake and circled the area some. I kept a close watch, thinking the worst—that maybe there had been mistakes in the original vetting all along, so that Joe would find the correct location and hopefully the other control. But, it seemed, Joe was just a bit off. After a while (at 9:32), Joe and two others who had caught up by then found the control and went on. Another runner arrived shortly and found it, too. My search radius had by then expanded to about 150 meters, still with no sight of the other control.
I then left the area. We found the person who placed the other control in the morning, and after he located the other control, we sent Eric to the start and gave the go-ahead. This was around 9:57. There was therefore an about 50 minute delay in starting all but the first five Blue competitors. Some people had early flights and had to downgrade to a shorter course. We sincerely apologize for that.
Here's what happened on Day 3 (long version of the story). I dropped an SI unit in the woods when putting out controls on the afternoon of Day 2. I placed the control and the water, and had an extra SI unit, but had nothing to make the code with. I was going to put a replacement unit after dinner on Saturday with a headlamp, but was dissuaded, being told it was virtually certain I'd get arrested or at least interrogated for being in the park after dark.
So, the unit was instead placed on Sunday morning. The person who placed it had another water control to place early on Sunday, a fairly close one to the start and the assembly area. The latter task got delayed, and when it was finally done around 8:30, he was unsure that he had found the right location because there was no streamer.
Eric and I raced to the location. While Eric stayed in the car, I ran and found the streamer (around 9:06), but no control. I searched about 50 meters around for the misplaced control, with no luck. I then put out a replacement control at 9:15, while Eric rushed to the start and asked to hold the Blue runners. The concern was that there was another control in the area with the same code and with water. Five people on Blue had already started.
I ran a bit more around the area, trying to locate the other control, again with no luck. At 9:26, the first Blue starter, Joe, arrived (the replacement control had been there for about 11 minutes). Unfortunately Joe made a mistake and circled the area some. I kept a close watch, thinking the worst—that maybe there had been mistakes in the original vetting all along, so that Joe would find the correct location and hopefully the other control. But, it seemed, Joe was just a bit off. After a while (at 9:32), Joe and two others who had caught up by then found the control and went on. Another runner arrived shortly and found it, too. My search radius had by then expanded to about 150 meters, still with no sight of the other control.
I then left the area. We found the person who placed the other control in the morning, and after he located the other control, we sent Eric to the start and gave the go-ahead. This was around 9:57. There was therefore an about 50 minute delay in starting all but the first five Blue competitors. Some people had early flights and had to downgrade to a shorter course. We sincerely apologize for that.
This discussion thread is closed.