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Discussion: Injuries in Orienteering

in: Orienteering; General

Feb 18, 2013 2:33 PM # 
aphito:
Anyone know a scientific study comparing the incidence of injuries in orienteering and other sports?
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Feb 18, 2013 2:44 PM # 
tRicky:
Stick through the leg is a common one that a lot of other sports wouldn't encounter.
Feb 18, 2013 2:56 PM # 
Charlie:
I've also had a stick in the eye (fortunately it went in along the side of the eye itself and not a puncture, remarkably far, but with virtually no damage), and a stick in the ear (again, remarkably far and a pretty unsettling experience). Pretty amazing, considering the places we go and how fast we are going that there are not more serious injuries. Certainly plenty of scratches. In over 30 years only one injury bad enough to force me to abandon the course. OK, two. I thought of another one, but that was less serious.
Feb 18, 2013 11:30 PM # 
chitownclark:
I agree about the general absence of serious injuries while orienteering. I also had a stick in the eye...worked its way past the side of my glasses but did not puncture the eyeball. That eyeball must be a lot tougher than we think!

And of course there's the infamous 2" Kansas thorn that pierced the rubber sole, effectively nailing the shoe to this poor guy's foot!
Feb 19, 2013 1:02 AM # 
simmo:
Probably something here.
Feb 19, 2013 9:43 PM # 
bct:
I think there was an AP discussion on a study about Lyme (and other tick-bornes) and orienteering.
Feb 20, 2013 12:12 AM # 
wilsmith:
Anecdotal, I know, but it certainly seems clear to me that the incidence of significant Achilles tendon injuries is MUCH higher in elite orienteering than in any other population with which I am familiar. Risk seems to rise with age and how hard you train - worse with "older" elites (30+) who still train "hard".
Feb 20, 2013 12:56 AM # 
simmo:
Achilles injuries are widespread in sports where running is involved. In Australia (also anecdotal, I know) I'd say there is a far higher incidence among runners, footballers, soccer and hockey players than amongst orienteers. On a popular running website (Cool Running Australia) there are over 40,000 views on posts concerning achilles injuries.
Feb 20, 2013 2:44 AM # 
tRicky:
Were 39,900 of them from you?
Feb 20, 2013 3:35 AM # 
aphito:
There was an article about this in an old issue of Orienteering World. Anyone knows this?
Feb 20, 2013 5:16 AM # 
tRicky:
Apparently you do.
Feb 20, 2013 7:49 AM # 
DickO:
I had a "stick in the eye" that resulted in a torn retina - it was if I was looking into a jar of honey. Like a mug, I kept on going and the retina flipped back into place. Luckily the optometry prof back at the Finish looked at it, said 'Go directly to Eye Hospital, do not pass go etc' (Thanks Barb !). Which I did, got it lasered back on (bloody painful too, I might say) and no real problems since apart from a few 'flashes". Now wear protective glasses religiously, ie every Sunday.
Feb 20, 2013 9:41 PM # 
tonyf:
Scratched corneas are not rare - I've done it twice (back in the old days when I ran faster). Barbed wire slices are common; I've even been enmeshed in concertina wire once. But certainly sprained ankles are the most common injury. It seems to me that every event that has several hundred runners will produce at least one ankle sprain. That's why many of us tape, or better, use ankle braces like Active Ankle routinely. Broken bones (and other serious injuries) seem surprisingly rare although my wife broke her ankle at a club meet. All of which does not answer the original question!
Feb 20, 2013 11:36 PM # 
bchubb:
A very small study (me) found:
Ankle, Ankle, Ankle, Stick in the forehead, Ankle

Here's a study of 32,509 ankle injuries including Orienteering.
Feb 20, 2013 11:42 PM # 
gruver:
Well done Bryan, your small study is well up to the standard of most of the injury articles in "Scientific Journal of Orienteering".
Feb 21, 2013 1:44 AM # 
O-ing:
Can't help referring to an earlier study available at the same series of web pages; this time from the British Journal of Sports Medicine entitled "Orienteering Injuries". The study was done by Dr. Jean Folan, an Ajax Orienteering and Hill Running Club member with very dodgy ankles and featured an event we organised (in 1981).
Feb 21, 2013 4:12 AM # 
Tooms:
Well done O-ing, one answer that was useful for the original poster. Unlike tRicky's stimulus-response keyboard blurts.
Feb 21, 2013 7:31 AM # 
tRicky:
Your post doesn't contribute much either.

Anyway I'm waiting to hear back whether my latest 'problem' has come about from too many hours in the saddle, then I can compare that to all my orienteering related injuries, of which there seems to be many (mostly impact related).
Feb 21, 2013 8:34 AM # 
Tooms:
I was encouraging and supporting O-ing - and teasing you!
Feb 21, 2013 1:44 PM # 
tRicky:
Poo to you.

I wonder if there's ever been a study done into the probability of having to wear ankle braces versus your relative height to other orienteers.

For example:
-Fletch is 6' 15", wears ankle braces
-Tooms is 6' 27", wears ankle braces
-tRicky is a short a**e and doesn't wear ankle braces
-Doltboi on the other hand is about my height and wears them

Conclusion: probability of rolling your ankle if you're over 6 foot = 100%

This study probably needs a bit more work and a greater population.
Feb 21, 2013 5:06 PM # 
Gil:
I am 6'3", I don't wear and never wore angle braces nor I ever taped my ankles when racing even back in days when I could run really fast and I have not had an ankle injury that slowed me down.
Feb 21, 2013 6:02 PM # 
Nikolay:
What is a**e? Let me at least learn something usefull for next time I travel down under.
Feb 21, 2013 6:32 PM # 
Gil:
If it was abbreviated from Russian it would be "ж**а". Literal translation might differ slightly.
Feb 21, 2013 6:51 PM # 
yurets:
It is becoming really entertaining.
Let's put another shrimp on the barbie.
Feb 21, 2013 8:34 PM # 
Juffy:
The bit you're missing is that Fletch and Tooms are both scarecrows, and their straw ankles aren't very strong.
Feb 21, 2013 10:49 PM # 
tRicky:
New studies have shown that only 66.7% of people over 6 foot will roll their ankles enough to slow them down.
Feb 21, 2013 10:51 PM # 
Juffy:
Gosh, it's a good thing we've got science on our side or we'd be totally a**ed.
Feb 21, 2013 10:53 PM # 
tRicky:
Nikolay - an a**e is like a donkey but spelt differently and more provocative.
Feb 21, 2013 10:57 PM # 
O-ing:
And donkeys are pretty provocative to start with.
Feb 22, 2013 12:09 AM # 
Juffy:
Recent studies1 reveal that 6 out of 10 orienteers have been provoked by a donkey.

1 of tRicky's a**e.
Feb 22, 2013 1:33 AM # 
yurets:
another good reason for wearing ankle braces while doing orienteering down under
Feb 22, 2013 2:51 AM # 
simmo:
Useful when there are Joe Blakes around too, but not much protection against drop bears.
Feb 22, 2013 4:14 AM # 
Juffy:
yurets - awww, he just wants a pat.
Feb 22, 2013 4:14 AM # 
tRicky:
Only in Tasmania.
Feb 22, 2013 9:04 AM # 
Nikolay:
So an a**e is an over 6 feet tall, 30+ years old donkey with an ankle brace for stability, with a scratched cornea (or one eyed if unlucky) and recovering from lime.
Feb 23, 2013 6:08 AM # 
tinytoes:
Yep - got it in one. Just which one?

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