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Discussion: USA WOC Thread

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Jul 6, 2013 5:19 PM # 
Cristina:
Hi everyone!

The first WOC race is tomorrow! Tight on time and short on internet, so for now I must direct you to the blog for more information, including some videos and start times for the long distance qualification tomorrow morning.

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Jul 7, 2013 5:10 AM # 
Terry:
Anyone found out how to follow the long qualification race?
Jul 7, 2013 5:18 AM # 
bshields:
The online coverage of the event is at the WOC site:

http://www.woc2013.fi/ssl/woc.nsf/sp?open&cid=day7...

Apart from the women's long distance qualification, all events will have GPS tracking, including the men's long qual.
Jul 7, 2013 6:27 AM # 
Terry:
The GPS tracking is here and possibly requires payment of 10 euro:
http://sportsground.fi/

Am investigating ...
Jul 7, 2013 6:35 AM # 
Terry:
Seems if you go to the above link, you can register and pay, and then you get live video coverage (after watching a couple minutes of commercials) of the finish, where at the moment nothing is going on.

After registering and paying, you can get GPS tracking here:
http://gps.tulospalvelu.fi/gps/2013wocLongQall/
(although I haven't gotten it to work yet because I don't have java installed on this dinosaur of a computer).
Jul 7, 2013 6:43 AM # 
Terry:
The login for video at sportsground.fi isn't quite working properly. After 5 minutes the video stops, saying that my time has run out. If I log in again, I get back on, maybe for only another 5 minutes. This is being discussed in chat at http://www.woc2013.fi/ssl/woc.nsf/sp?Open&cid=chat
Jul 7, 2013 6:45 AM # 
Oleg:
Online results:
http://online.woc2013.fi/tulokset/en/2013_woc_long...
Jul 7, 2013 6:50 AM # 
Terry:
GPS tracking very cool! Ross Smith from U.S. and Sergei Longvin from Canada on the course.
Jul 7, 2013 6:51 AM # 
Terry:
Today's start list:
http://online.woc2013.fi/tulokset/en/2013_woc_long...
Jul 7, 2013 8:28 AM # 
Oleg:
AliC in the final!
Jul 7, 2013 8:36 AM # 
barb:
Yeah, Ali!
Jul 7, 2013 9:09 AM # 
slauenstein:
Great job Ali!
Jul 7, 2013 9:37 AM # 
Oleg:
GPS tracking replay for free
http://gps.tulospalvelu.fi/gps/2013wocLongQall/ind...

Men course only.
Jul 7, 2013 9:46 AM # 
Miikka:
GPS tracking free only on Sunday because of problems with the service provider.
Jul 7, 2013 10:56 AM # 
igor_:
Awesome!
Jul 7, 2013 12:49 PM # 
eddie:
Ali in with a solid 9th. Louise 14, in Ali's heat. LaBaguette in at 12th. Neil very close with a 16th! Nick Simonin, 13th. Annabel one minute out in 17th. Catherine Taylor GBR the winner of Q2.
Jul 7, 2013 1:24 PM # 
ken:
Some pictures from the long qual. may update later.
Jul 7, 2013 2:00 PM # 
eddie:
Awesome!

"You must cut down the mightiest tree in the forest, wiiiiith..., a Herring!" (Ni)

Jul 7, 2013 2:35 PM # 
Becks:
Eddie, is that a little path running through the middle? A path, a path!

That guy has different coloured shoes!

Nice work Ali, and exciting times from Cat!
Jul 7, 2013 4:29 PM # 
eddie:
Roger the Shrubber and his two-tone shoes!
Jul 7, 2013 7:24 PM # 
Cristina:
Hi everyone!

Really psyched about Ali's 9th in the qual! You can see a video of Ali takling about her race (briefly) on the blog, along with a detailed write-up from Wyatt about his race.

Tomorrow's the sprint! Here are US start times:

Alison Campbell 9:03
Alex 9:06
Ali Crocker 9:18
Brendan 9:51
Wyatt 10:09
Ross 10:17
Jul 8, 2013 8:04 AM # 
Oleg:
GPS tracking replay sprint qualification
http://www.tulospalvelu.fi/gps/
Jul 8, 2013 9:28 AM # 
peggyd:
Wow! Ali 4th in her sprint qual! Excellent!
Jul 8, 2013 10:33 AM # 
Wyatt:
Minute 35-37 of this: http://www.tulospalvelu.fi/gps/2013wocLongQ3/
has my chicken-coop route...

which is, as we'd (thankfully) browsed the day before, legal:
http://www.barebones.ca/Forbidden%20features%20201...
Jul 8, 2013 10:34 AM # 
Cristina:
Been trying out this Tweety thing, follow @CristinaAwesome for live updates, pictures, and video from WOC.
Jul 9, 2013 9:57 AM # 
slauenstein:
The splits say that Ali has a 14 min lead at 5.3 km... Ha! This isn't true, but she is doing well anyway. Go Ali!
Jul 9, 2013 10:10 AM # 
slauenstein:
They fixed it. Amélie still hasn't caught Ali, even though they were only a few seconds apart at number 6. Ali turned up the speed! Nice work!
Jul 9, 2013 10:17 AM # 
edwarddes:
Ali is taking a very far left route 10-11.
Jul 9, 2013 10:19 AM # 
Canadian:
Interesting. I didn't even see that route but it's totally valid.
Jul 9, 2013 10:28 AM # 
igor_:
yeah!
Jul 9, 2013 10:29 AM # 
edwarddes:
It seemed to work, put her 2 seconds up on Chataing at 11, when she had been down by a minute at 10!
Jul 9, 2013 10:29 AM # 
slauenstein:
Awesome route choice to 11, first place through the arena! amazing!!
Jul 9, 2013 11:14 AM # 
slauenstein:
Amazing race Ali! You make us proud!
Jul 9, 2013 11:44 AM # 
eddie:
It looks like Ali has finished? Currently 15th. I'm afraid I don't have many spectating options on the home computers :(
Jul 9, 2013 11:46 AM # 
Cristina:
Ali had a really awesome run and she is totally psyched! She and Emily Kemp were all smiles today!
Jul 9, 2013 11:47 AM # 
eddie:
Only 5 runners still on course?
Jul 9, 2013 11:49 AM # 
MJChilds:
What a thrill to watch all of the favorites, including Ali, Louise, and Emily on the GPS mass start. Fantastic races Ali and Emily!!! I love technology right now.
Jul 9, 2013 11:50 AM # 
BorisGr:
Ali in 18th! Amazing race!!!!!
Jul 9, 2013 11:51 AM # 
eddie:
Whoa!! That's AMAZING!
Jul 9, 2013 11:55 AM # 
eddie:
She's in the 5 min spread between 9th and 19th.
Jul 9, 2013 11:57 AM # 
cmorse:
Top 20 - outstanding... excellent choice on the wide route to 11, Eliasson was the only other one I noted that went that way..

decent video coverage on YLE2. Showed Ali in the chute, also caught glimpses of wyatt & ndobbs in a the crowd...
Jul 9, 2013 12:06 PM # 
eddie:
Cat_T in 10th - excellent.
Jul 9, 2013 12:10 PM # 
eddie:
Looks like Nick Simonin is running well so far. At the halfway radio now.
Jul 9, 2013 1:07 PM # 
blairtrewin:
Big moment - Lakanen goes left on the long leg, Bertuks straight (as is Gueorgiou). If left works as well for the men as it did for Ali this could be very significant.
Jul 9, 2013 1:10 PM # 
blairtrewin:
Oh, and by the way, the video has gone down again.
Jul 9, 2013 1:19 PM # 
blairtrewin:
Doesn't look like it made as much difference for the men - Lakanen and Gueorgiou only 2 seconds apart on that leg.
Jul 9, 2013 1:20 PM # 
robplow:
try yle
http://arenan.yle.fi/tv/1955269/#/play
Jul 9, 2013 1:26 PM # 
eddie:
Man, I want to see this leg. Need to get to a "real" computer.
Jul 9, 2013 1:32 PM # 
robplow:
bertuks misses now Lakanen and bertuks together - until the gaffling
Jul 9, 2013 1:32 PM # 
Pink Socks:
Eddie, can you not see the .gif files here?
http://www.woc2013.fi/woc/sp?Open&cid=content2C118...
Jul 9, 2013 1:33 PM # 
robplow:
possibly
Jul 9, 2013 1:39 PM # 
eddie:
Ah, yes. Thanks. Left route is about 500m longer with lots of road/track.
Jul 9, 2013 1:42 PM # 
Pink Socks:
(I'm on a lame computer, too)
Jul 9, 2013 1:45 PM # 
eddie:
Here come's Thierry.
Jul 9, 2013 1:48 PM # 
eddie:
Lakanen seems to have opened up a little space.
Jul 9, 2013 1:52 PM # 
eddie:
Kiril on the bubble again this year. Good results, but I'm sure he wants more.
Jul 9, 2013 2:02 PM # 
Tundra/Desert:
After 15 or so minutes, I get errors on both the Finnish and the Swedish YLE feeds, and they are unrecoverable.
Jul 9, 2013 2:09 PM # 
robplow:
yle worked almost perfectly for me. a few times it crashed when i switched from full screen to window - but refresh gt it back quickly
Jul 9, 2013 2:11 PM # 
robplow:
one of the better Tv coverages of O I have seen.

Online results worked oK for the long final

and GPS was availalble for free

so no complaints for me
Jul 10, 2013 12:58 PM # 
PG:
I'm not sure what the schedule is (or maybe it hasn't been decided yet?) for WOC2014, as well as the qualifying rules, but it has been pointed out lots that this year's schedule for the first three days -- LQ, SQ and SF, and LF -- would make it hard to run both the sprint and the long.

I took a quick look at who ran both for the women. Of the 45 in the long final only 9 ran the SQ/SF the day before. All the others had a rest day.

Those that ran both and finished -- Simone Niggli (1st), Ali Crocker (18th), Gabija Ražaitytė (26th), Nataliya Dimitrova (32nd), Miek Fabré (33rd), Ursula Kadan (36th), Alicia Cobo Caballero (39th), Michela Guizzardi (44th), and Emma Klingenberg (DQ).

So it makes you wonder how much different the results would have been in either event had there been proper spacing. I have to imagine quite a lot.

And also wonder how it will affect the numbers allowed each country in 2014.
Jul 11, 2013 6:30 AM # 
eddie:
Is the middle qual underway? Looks like the live results should be here, but nothing seems to be happening. First starts were 30 mins ago, right? Its awfully early in the morning...do I have the right day? :)
Jul 11, 2013 6:32 AM # 
edwarddes:
Lots of big mistakes for the women so far. It may be a while before any of them reach control 7.
Jul 11, 2013 6:33 AM # 
eddie:
Ah, there they go! Merja 20 mins to the first 2 km split. wow.
Jul 11, 2013 6:35 AM # 
edwarddes:
Ali is running well so far. Hannah is having problems getting to 2, but should know where 3 is really well now :)
Jul 11, 2013 6:35 AM # 
edwarddes:
GPS links:
http://gps.tulospalvelu.fi/gps/2013mqW1/
http://gps.tulospalvelu.fi/gps/2013mqW2/
http://gps.tulospalvelu.fi/gps/2013mqW3/
Jul 11, 2013 6:36 AM # 
eddie:
Oh... even tougher out there than I was expecting.
Jul 11, 2013 6:41 AM # 
eddie:
The last km is a bit faster.
Jul 11, 2013 6:43 AM # 
edwarddes:
Its the first three controls that are giving everyone problems.
Jul 11, 2013 6:43 AM # 
eddie:
The time dispersions are going to be huge.
Jul 11, 2013 6:45 AM # 
eddie:
No video for the quals, right?
Jul 11, 2013 6:46 AM # 
edwarddes:
The sportsground (paid) video is working well today. Mostly just gps tracks, but there is commentary.
Jul 11, 2013 6:48 AM # 
edwarddes:
Sam just made it to the first control with no major problems. That may be all you need to make a final.
Jul 11, 2013 6:49 AM # 
eddie:
Oh. Maybe I should go in to the office after all. I was going to, but then I thought there would be no vid at all. I still only have this work laptop at home that can't do anything fun :)
Jul 11, 2013 6:50 AM # 
eddie:
How is Hannah coming along?
Jul 11, 2013 6:50 AM # 
edwarddes:
Hannah had issues coming down into her 4. Looks like she may have been pulled toward the heat 2 4 instead of her own.
Jul 11, 2013 6:51 AM # 
edwarddes:
9-10 is a big downhill into the finish. Ali is on her way down now and should be in soon.
Jul 11, 2013 6:52 AM # 
eddie:
Whoa! Thats really good. No int split for her yet?
Jul 11, 2013 6:53 AM # 
edwarddes:
Sam missed 2 to the south, seems to have figured it out and is headed back north again.
Jul 11, 2013 6:54 AM # 
eddie:
Looks like the intermediate splits are intermittent this morning.
Jul 11, 2013 6:55 AM # 
edwarddes:
No 7 split, 10 just showed up.
Jul 11, 2013 6:55 AM # 
eddie:
Yes, Ali with a very good time.
Jul 11, 2013 6:56 AM # 
eddie:
Thats solid. Should hold up well for a qual spot.
Jul 11, 2013 6:57 AM # 
eddie:
Will the cutoff be 50% behind the leader??
Jul 11, 2013 7:00 AM # 
edwarddes:
Sam just took a scenic detour to look at a cliff?
Jul 11, 2013 7:00 AM # 
eddie:
Relocation?

Kerstin Burnett's 40:26 might be enough to get in.
Jul 11, 2013 7:01 AM # 
edwarddes:
Hannah is on her way down to 10.
Jul 11, 2013 7:06 AM # 
edwarddes:
Big mistake for Sam on 4.
Jul 11, 2013 7:06 AM # 
ledusledus:
are there results somewhere?
Jul 11, 2013 7:07 AM # 
eddie:
Ok, Hannah in at 49
Jul 11, 2013 7:07 AM # 
edwarddes:
Hannah just finished on the video, currently in 7th, +19min.
Jul 11, 2013 7:07 AM # 
edwarddes:
Results:
http://online.woc2013.fi/tulokset/en/2013_woc_midd...
http://online.woc2013.fi/tulokset/en/2013_woc_midd...
http://online.woc2013.fi/tulokset/en/2013_woc_midd...
Jul 11, 2013 7:08 AM # 
edwarddes:
Sam found 5, just made it back to 4, and is now on her way back to 5 again.
Jul 11, 2013 7:10 AM # 
eddie:
How long was that to 4?
Jul 11, 2013 7:11 AM # 
ledusledus:
They are there:
http://online.woc2013.fi/tulokset/en/2013_woc_midd...

Interesting - first split is 4 to 17 minutes...
Jul 11, 2013 7:11 AM # 
edwarddes:
150m 4-5
Jul 11, 2013 7:13 AM # 
edwarddes:
I have Sam at ~29min to 7 from the GPS.
Jul 11, 2013 7:14 AM # 
edwarddes:
She is running with Minna now 7->8
Jul 11, 2013 7:15 AM # 
eddie:
Looks like the 7km intermediate split stopped working at about 9:40 AM.
Jul 11, 2013 7:15 AM # 
eddie:
Ok, thats not bad. 38 finish? Maybe faster with Minna.
Jul 11, 2013 7:18 AM # 
Hammer:
back to back mistakes for Niggli!
Jul 11, 2013 7:18 AM # 
edwarddes:
Minna dropped her, on her way down to 10 now.
Jul 11, 2013 7:18 AM # 
eddie:
Three more have come in just slightly ahead of Hannah - within 30s. Rats.
Jul 11, 2013 7:19 AM # 
eddie:
Looks like Emily has qualified.
Jul 11, 2013 7:20 AM # 
edwarddes:
Emily had a good run, just came in 30 seconds up on Ali.
Jul 11, 2013 7:21 AM # 
edwarddes:
Ross and the vuvuzella feature prominently on the audio stream.
Jul 11, 2013 7:22 AM # 
eddie:
The times have tightened up quite a bit in heat 3.
Jul 11, 2013 7:23 AM # 
edwarddes:
Sam in in 39:14
Jul 11, 2013 7:24 AM # 
eddie:
Its gonna be close for Sam. Biting my nails...
Jul 11, 2013 7:26 AM # 
eddie:
I presume Simone's mistakes were relatively small? How is she looking on the track?
Jul 11, 2013 7:27 AM # 
edwarddes:
GPS replay had her +30 on Ali at 8.
Jul 11, 2013 7:28 AM # 
eddie:
Whoa. That'll put her mid-pack at best.
Jul 11, 2013 7:29 AM # 
Hammer:
Niggli will place about 6th in her heat just ahead of Kempster
Jul 11, 2013 7:31 AM # 
blairtrewin:
I think Sam's in trouble unless Faron makes a mistake at the end. Heat B was the one to be in - it looks like the cut there is going to be 47 or 48, compared with 37-38 in the other two.
Jul 11, 2013 7:31 AM # 
eddie:
Its gonna be close for Sam. All up to Fanni now.
Jul 11, 2013 7:32 AM # 
eddie:
Oh, is Faron farther up?
Jul 11, 2013 7:33 AM # 
edwarddes:
From GPS it looks like she will be in. Fanni just made it to 9, but never went to 4-5-6-7-8
Jul 11, 2013 7:34 AM # 
edwarddes:
Faron is just ahead of her.
Jul 11, 2013 7:34 AM # 
eddie:
Yeah Heat B. Hannah may be less than a minute behind the cut there.
Jul 11, 2013 7:36 AM # 
eddie:
Rats.
Jul 11, 2013 7:37 AM # 
eddie:
Oooh, Annabel might make it in (heat B)!
Jul 11, 2013 7:38 AM # 
eddie:
Looks like Louise is Flint.
Jul 11, 2013 7:38 AM # 
edwarddes:
Sam in 16th :(
Jul 11, 2013 7:39 AM # 
eddie:
Yeah, 40s.
Jul 11, 2013 7:41 AM # 
edwarddes:
Brendan is on his way to 2, looks good so far. Eric just started.
Jul 11, 2013 7:49 AM # 
peggyd:
I can only see the splits (I'm at work), so I really appreciate the GPS route updates! Thanks Ed.
Jul 11, 2013 7:51 AM # 
edwarddes:
Brendan had a mistake in the circle on 4, but was able to find it without too much wandering. Lots of errors for the men also.
Jul 11, 2013 7:51 AM # 
eddie:
Yeah, me too! Ali, Kempster, Annabel, Louise all officially qualified now.
Jul 11, 2013 7:53 AM # 
edwarddes:
Sam is actually 17th. The online splits don't number the ties correctly.
Jul 11, 2013 7:57 AM # 
edwarddes:
Eric just came through 5, finishing off the loop in the terrain that is giving everyone problems. Brendan is still having problems with 5, too far south.
Jul 11, 2013 7:58 AM # 
eddie:
Did Eric have any majors in there?
Jul 11, 2013 8:00 AM # 
edwarddes:
No, Eric is running really well.
Jul 11, 2013 8:00 AM # 
eddie:
So Ali has qualified for all three finals (and I assume she'll run in the relay as well). This is certainly a first for a US runner. And maybe the last :)
Jul 11, 2013 8:06 AM # 
edwarddes:
Maps:
http://www.woc2013.fi/ssl/woc.nsf/0/BF045E63A3EFE6...
http://www.woc2013.fi/ssl/woc.nsf/0/BF045E63A3EFE6...
http://www.woc2013.fi/ssl/woc.nsf/0/BF045E63A3EFE6...

http://www.woc2013.fi/ssl/woc.nsf/0/BF045E63A3EFE6...
http://www.woc2013.fi/ssl/woc.nsf/0/BF045E63A3EFE6...
http://www.woc2013.fi/ssl/woc.nsf/0/BF045E63A3EFE6...
Jul 11, 2013 8:10 AM # 
eddie:
Looks like we've lost the other intermediate time as well. I wonder what the failure mode is?
Jul 11, 2013 8:11 AM # 
edwarddes:
The announcers are saying there is no data coming from the woods except the GPS.
Jul 11, 2013 8:11 AM # 
edwarddes:
I don't know anything about how radios could fail :)
Jul 11, 2013 8:15 AM # 
edwarddes:
Eric just came through 11, now he just has the downhill run in. Brendan is having a good run after he got out of the northern loop. Boris just started.
Jul 11, 2013 8:16 AM # 
eddie:
A few of the late splits are appearing again. The nerds are out wiggling things :)
Jul 11, 2013 8:17 AM # 
eddie:
Ah, all the 2nd intermediate times have backfilled from a buffer somewhere.
Jul 11, 2013 8:18 AM # 
eddie:
Ok, Eric is in. About 7 mins back in the B heat.
Jul 11, 2013 8:20 AM # 
edwarddes:
Brendan is coming into the last control and should be finishing soon, ~47min.
Jul 11, 2013 8:22 AM # 
edwarddes:
Boris is having big problems on 1.
Jul 11, 2013 8:23 AM # 
eddie:
Eep. Boris set himself goals of 25-30% back today. Eric is 23% back in his heat.
Jul 11, 2013 8:24 AM # 
edwarddes:
~9min to the first control.
Jul 11, 2013 8:26 AM # 
eddie:
Wil Critchley in with a good run.
Jul 11, 2013 8:29 AM # 
eddie:
So how would you guys attack #1 in men's C?
Jul 11, 2013 8:33 AM # 
Hammer:
I like how Ross Morrison attacked it. Left of the line there is a small'ish plateau just before the veg boundary SE of the control. Then use the cliffs coming in. But the visibility must be poor.
Jul 11, 2013 8:34 AM # 
edwarddes:
The GPS has the men taking every possible route within ~50m of the line.
Jul 11, 2013 8:37 AM # 
eddie:
A couple of SUI have come in close to the target time, so Eric's % back has increased a little.
Jul 11, 2013 8:40 AM # 
eddie:
I was thinking the reentrant-veg bdy junction, then down either the L or right fork of that reentrant to come in from above or climb up over the big cliff. I'd run the serious risk of running down one of the many wrong forks in poor vis.
Jul 11, 2013 8:46 AM # 
eddie:
Looks like Nick may be pushed just out. Only a 5 min spread in B, 6 in A, but 10 in C.
Jul 11, 2013 8:47 AM # 
eddie:
Hey, the 1st intermediate times are filling in. Yay nerds!
Jul 11, 2013 8:50 AM # 
eddie:
But now the 2nd intermediate has stopped. Finnish Ed just said "WTF?!?"
Jul 11, 2013 8:52 AM # 
eddie:
Nick will be just out - maybe 20-30s.
Jul 11, 2013 8:55 AM # 
eddie:
Boris through the 1st int at 38. He'll be 49 or so.
Jul 11, 2013 9:03 AM # 
eddie:
Waiting for Eric Kemp. Hopefully he's past the 1st int already.
Jul 11, 2013 12:42 PM # 
graeme:
@eddie
Mens C#1. East to the path, down to the big path, two lefts at the track junctions, follow the veg boundary up to the control circle, and wonder why they gave me the white course map :)
Jul 11, 2013 1:49 PM # 
eddie:
Ha! Did anyone actually do that?
Jul 11, 2013 2:22 PM # 
iansmith:
So Ali has qualified for all three finals (and I assume she'll run in the relay as well). This is certainly a first for a US runner. And maybe the last :)

Actually, Ali did qualify for all three finals at WOC 2011 in France. I think she wasn't quite physically prepared for racing seven races in a week, so her legs were shot going into the finals. She seems to be better conditioned now and better prepared - and paced herself better, with less all-out sprinting in finish chutes.
Jul 11, 2013 2:26 PM # 
graeme:
Jovanovic. She was 19th on the leg, her best position on any leg.
Jul 11, 2013 2:29 PM # 
eddie:
Nice.
Jul 11, 2013 2:34 PM # 
eddie:
Sorry Ian, I forgot about that! I may have even been in France at the time.
Jul 11, 2013 2:44 PM # 
eddie:
I was just looking at the clue descriptions on some of the middle quals. For example, women's A #2, 3, 5, 9. Others too. In the US a course could be voided for the descriptions at 2, 5 and 9.
Jul 11, 2013 2:51 PM # 
eddie:
On #8 they felt the need to say which knoll, but on #9 where the knolls are even closer together they did not (and how could they given the other two knolls?) I think only #8 and 10 would be legal given the way I was taught to do it.
Jul 11, 2013 3:04 PM # 
ken:
pictures (also here)
Jul 11, 2013 4:31 PM # 
GHOSLO:
eddie's right. Why would they not describe which feature? has anyone complained?
Jul 11, 2013 4:51 PM # 
igor_:
Perhaps for #2 it is the top of the deeper part of the re-entrant but then it flattens out. So it may be confusing to specify top-of.

Not sure what's wrong with #5

For #9 maybe again it is the eastern of the two close knolls but then there is another one further east so there is ambiguity as well.

That's just my take, of course, you may be right.
Jul 11, 2013 5:27 PM # 
feet:
I think eddie is complaining about the fact that there are multiple reentrants in the circle, but it is not specified which one the control is in (middle, eastern, western, ...).
Jul 11, 2013 5:35 PM # 
carlch:
The way courses are printed these days, it's possible to center the circle exactly over the control location and I think the description about exactly which feature it is (i.e. east, west, etc), is less important now than it was in the days when course printers or even hand drawn circles were used.

Just a little game I play with myself but when I look at these courses, I try to pick out what the feature at the center of the circle is and than look at the clue to see if I'm right.
Jul 11, 2013 11:22 PM # 
jjcote:
In the US, if it were protested and the course voided, it would not necessarily be upheld if a grievance were filed. In a quick scan, I don't see any rule that would require a symbol in column C.

I agree with Carl, column C is to eliminate ambiguity, not to create a Simon-Says-style "gotcha" for the organizers. In looking at that map, I don't have any uncertainty about which feature is intended.
Jul 12, 2013 9:17 AM # 
ndobbs:
#2 is in a re-entrant over 50m long... in low vis woods...
Coming from the west, I passed, looked up and down the re-entrant, didn't see the control, left and came back. It could be considered inappropriate.
Jul 12, 2013 11:19 AM # 
eddie:
Middle final is underway now. Live vid on SVT:
http://www.svtplay.se/video/1330629/medeldistans-h...

Thierry just through a TV control. Looks overcast. Maybe partly sunny.
Jul 12, 2013 11:21 AM # 
eddie:
Live results:
http://online.woc2013.fi/tulokset/en/2013_woc_midd...
Jul 12, 2013 11:40 AM # 
eddie:
First women's start in about 25 mins. Louise starts at 8:24:30 AM EDT, Ali starts at 8:26 EDT, and Emily Kemp at 8:39:30 EDT.
Jul 12, 2013 11:43 AM # 
backwoods:
Thierry one second ahead at 14!!
Jul 12, 2013 11:46 AM # 
hughmac⁴:
Incredible comeback! What a nail-biter!
Jul 12, 2013 11:46 AM # 
eddie:
Yes! Lots of video of the King this morning.
Jul 12, 2013 11:47 AM # 
eddie:
Novikov still matching Thierry at the 6km mark
Jul 12, 2013 11:49 AM # 
eddie:
Lots of radio controls - the later ones not reporting regularly though. At least the video has times at the TV controls.
Jul 12, 2013 11:49 AM # 
hughmac⁴:
Wow!
Jul 12, 2013 11:50 AM # 
eddie:
Novikov has him!
Jul 12, 2013 11:50 AM # 
hughmac⁴:
Great finish!
Jul 12, 2013 11:51 AM # 
eddie:
Novikov and Hubmann in the chute!
Jul 12, 2013 11:52 AM # 
igor_:
Oh wow!
Jul 12, 2013 11:52 AM # 
eddie:
Will kyburz sneak into the medals?
Jul 12, 2013 11:54 AM # 
eddie:
No - he'd need 30s in the chute :)
Jul 12, 2013 11:55 AM # 
eddie:
Novikov!!! j-man will be out of control! He'll have to be restrained.
Jul 12, 2013 11:58 AM # 
eddie:
Clem, you'll have to flip over that photo of Novikov in your living room in honor of this occasion!
Jul 12, 2013 12:01 PM # 
eddie:
I see the Russian team is sponsored by a Finnish compass maker this year.
Jul 12, 2013 12:03 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
The Live Results were solid. I was 'watching' that on my commute in this am (train). Compelling enough to have my nearest seatmates sending me sideways glances at my reactions.

The video quality at SVT, for free, from SWE, is darned good! Womens' just started broadcasting.
Jul 12, 2013 12:05 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
Here we go!
Jul 12, 2013 12:05 PM # 
eddie:
Allrightttyyythen.

LETS go AL-eee *clap clap clap-clap-clap*
LETS go AL-eee *clap clap clap-clap-clap*
Jul 12, 2013 12:06 PM # 
Niall:
Is this Russia's second-ever Gold? On the wikipedia site, I see one in the Long in 2005 and that's it. Well-deserved to Novikov in any case, what a great finish.

..and the women's live broadcast has started - as has Jasmine Neve.
Jul 12, 2013 12:07 PM # 
Niall:
Goooo Emily! And Louise! :)
Jul 12, 2013 12:07 PM # 
eddie:
Nice of them to stop traffic for the women's start...
Jul 12, 2013 12:09 PM # 
eddie:
15 mins to Louise and Ali's starts. Watch live!!
Jul 12, 2013 12:10 PM # 
eddie:
Annabel starts in 10 mins.
Jul 12, 2013 12:11 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
Looks like some tough stuff there at the start.
Jul 12, 2013 12:13 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
Live Results
Live GPS
Live Video

Good coverage!
Jul 12, 2013 12:14 PM # 
eddie:
I dig the "smoke rings" when they punch on the GPS tracking!
Jul 12, 2013 12:15 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
Yeah, that's really super.
Jul 12, 2013 12:16 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
There should be a sound too. A "whump" or clapping.
Jul 12, 2013 12:18 PM # 
eddie:
Ok, 5 mins to the first NA gals.
Jul 12, 2013 12:19 PM # 
j-man:
Wrong Novikov :(
Jul 12, 2013 12:20 PM # 
eddie:
:) I thought he looked different. New haircut maybe?
Jul 12, 2013 12:20 PM # 
eddie:
Go Annabel!
Jul 12, 2013 12:23 PM # 
eddie:
Just saw Louise running up to the second line. She's next!
Jul 12, 2013 12:24 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
That control 6 cam is awesome.
Jul 12, 2013 12:24 PM # 
eddie:
The gals are missing left on control 6.
Jul 12, 2013 12:25 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
Hahah, that control 6 cam is awesome. Well hidden.

Go Louise!!
Jul 12, 2013 12:25 PM # 
eddie:
Yeah LOUISE!!!!
Jul 12, 2013 12:26 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
Ali!!
Jul 12, 2013 12:27 PM # 
eddie:
LETS go AL-eee *clap clap clap-clap-clap*
LETS go AL-eee *clap clap clap-clap-clap*
Jul 12, 2013 12:28 PM # 
eddie:
10 mins to Emily's start.
Jul 12, 2013 12:28 PM # 
eddie:
Ali spikes #1
Jul 12, 2013 12:28 PM # 
Niall:
Woo, nice spiking first control for Ali!
Jul 12, 2013 12:29 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
Super start.
Jul 12, 2013 12:30 PM # 
Niall:
Alison just caught up with Louise...
Jul 12, 2013 12:32 PM # 
Niall:
I'll have to leave for work after Emily starts (must encourage local talent), and no TV link at work, but I'll check GPS and my productivity will be shot for a bit. :)
Jul 12, 2013 12:32 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
Interesting 6>7 tracks going on.
Jul 12, 2013 12:32 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
I'm writing this AM off, for sure, productivity-wise.
Jul 12, 2013 12:36 PM # 
eddie:
Annabel spiked 6.
Jul 12, 2013 12:37 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
That was the best #6 I've seen so far.

Ali just lost her advantage @#4, now they're all clumped.
Jul 12, 2013 12:38 PM # 
Niall:
Emily starts next!
Jul 12, 2013 12:39 PM # 
Niall:
Yeah, Wyder caught up with Alison, but 6-7 is where it gets decided...
Jul 12, 2013 12:40 PM # 
Niall:
There's the Kempster smile!
Jul 12, 2013 12:41 PM # 
Niall:
And once again, the start controller is also all smiles as she leaves! Kempster spirit lives!

Also, the commentators mentioned how she's been studying with Thierry. If people hadn't noticed her before, THAT will make them pay attention...
Jul 12, 2013 12:42 PM # 
eddie:
Louise and Ali both into 6 no prob. Ali with Wyder
Jul 12, 2013 12:45 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
The Brits are rockin!
Jul 12, 2013 12:47 PM # 
eddie:
As is the kempster. Looked great through 3.
Jul 12, 2013 12:48 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
Same low miss as Ali @ #4!
Jul 12, 2013 12:48 PM # 
edwarddes:
What video feed are you watching that is showing the start/woods controls? The sportsground paid video feed only has had arena cameras.
Jul 12, 2013 12:49 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
Live Results
Live GPS
Live Video

Good coverage!
Jul 12, 2013 12:50 PM # 
backwoods:
go here http://www.svtplay.se/video/1332445/orientering-vm
Jul 12, 2013 12:51 PM # 
eddie:
Yeah the SVT vid has been excellent. A good mix of everything.
Jul 12, 2013 12:51 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
GPS 'hole' before #7 there ... really adds to the suspense! :)
Jul 12, 2013 12:53 PM # 
backwoods:
emily 7th at #6!
Jul 12, 2013 12:53 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
Emily BIG spike on 6!
Jul 12, 2013 12:55 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
Ali chewing up 7 and 8!!
Jul 12, 2013 12:59 PM # 
iansmith:
It looks like Minna is gaining on Simone at 5.
Jul 12, 2013 12:59 PM # 
eddie:
Clem, I think its good that you found a new Novikov. I mean, the dinosaurs are retiring, so you might as well. Plus you can say:

"Hi, I'm Clem, this is my boy Novikov, and this is my other boy Novikov."
Jul 12, 2013 1:02 PM # 
eddie:
I like the spectator chute paralleling the finish chute (as a spectator :).
Jul 12, 2013 1:04 PM # 
j-man:
Valentin is eternal.
Jul 12, 2013 1:11 PM # 
edwarddes:
The SVT feed is way better! Why aren't they showing any of that on the paid feed?
Jul 12, 2013 1:11 PM # 
eddie:
Sime ran control 7 really well.
Jul 12, 2013 1:11 PM # 
eddie:
Ali in the chute!
Jul 12, 2013 1:11 PM # 
backwoods:
Allison in fourth so far! Great run!
Jul 12, 2013 1:12 PM # 
Niall:
We've lost Emily's signal, and not at a good place.. :(
Jul 12, 2013 1:12 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
AWESOME chute coverage for Ali!
Jul 12, 2013 1:13 PM # 
iansmith:
Go Ali!
Jul 12, 2013 1:13 PM # 
eddie:
Was that Louise at the spectator? I've lost her on the GPS track.
Jul 12, 2013 1:17 PM # 
j-man:
This womens' final is crazy! I'm telling you!
Jul 12, 2013 1:19 PM # 
backwoods:
did anyone else just lose their video? the swedish one?
Jul 12, 2013 1:19 PM # 
Niall:
Yes, Louise has finished. Emily is so far in excellent position after control 8, still in the top half! And after control 12, she's just ahead of Alison. Tight race, and excellent from both of them!
Jul 12, 2013 1:20 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
Oh nooo just lost the video.
Jul 12, 2013 1:20 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
Video back.
Jul 12, 2013 1:21 PM # 
eddie:
Oh, Minna!
Jul 12, 2013 1:21 PM # 
Canadian:
yes, I just switched to he YLE feed instead: http://areena.yle.fi/tv/1969771/#/play
Jul 12, 2013 1:21 PM # 
backwoods:
phew....video back...
Jul 12, 2013 1:22 PM # 
backwoods:
Emily in 6th so far at the finish! Great run girls!!!!
Jul 12, 2013 1:22 PM # 
eddie:
She was reeling Simone back in and then got dragged to 11 before 10.
Jul 12, 2013 1:22 PM # 
Niall:
And Niggli is destroying the competition...
Jul 12, 2013 1:23 PM # 
backwoods:
7th actually!
Jul 12, 2013 1:23 PM # 
stever:
Emily!
Jul 12, 2013 1:23 PM # 
eddie:
Yes, they'll finish in the mid to high 20's!
Jul 12, 2013 1:24 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
Good chute footage of Emily as well! Well done, producers.
Jul 12, 2013 1:25 PM # 
iansmith:
Tove is taking the trail wide right en route to 7.
Jul 12, 2013 1:28 PM # 
eddie:
Holy cow!
Jul 12, 2013 1:28 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
No kidding!
Jul 12, 2013 1:29 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
The door is wide open! :)
Jul 12, 2013 1:29 PM # 
eddie:
Simone was very fast on 7, running north of the line. Just over 9 mins.
Jul 12, 2013 1:32 PM # 
iansmith:
Tove's 1:18 back of Simone after 7.
Jul 12, 2013 1:32 PM # 
eddie:
Tove lost ~3 mins to Simone on that 7 route.
Jul 12, 2013 1:32 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
Tove A big miss on #7
Jul 12, 2013 1:32 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
hehe
Jul 12, 2013 1:33 PM # 
eddie:
Heh, you can hear the Kopter buzzing around.
Jul 12, 2013 1:33 PM # 
iansmith:
More like 1:53 lost to Simone.
Jul 12, 2013 1:34 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
Yeah, sounds like a weed whacker.
Jul 12, 2013 1:36 PM # 
eddie:
Simone really cooked the last loop. The remaining gals are going to have to dig deep to take any of that back.
Jul 12, 2013 1:37 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
Very tight 2-6 race
Jul 12, 2013 1:37 PM # 
iansmith:
Yikes, how is Simone so fast?! 12:41 from 8 to the finish.
Jul 12, 2013 1:38 PM # 
iansmith:
"This is where champions are made!"
Jul 12, 2013 1:39 PM # 
iansmith:
Billstam - attacking from the low open field to the right on 12. Did many people take that route? It looks fast.
Jul 12, 2013 1:40 PM # 
eddie:
I think Simone did that too.
Jul 12, 2013 1:42 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
Looks like Tove will be as well.
Jul 12, 2013 1:44 PM # 
eddie:
C'mon Merja!!!
Jul 12, 2013 1:44 PM # 
iansmith:
Tove has taken a 30s lead over Minna!
Jul 12, 2013 1:46 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
Merja!!
Jul 12, 2013 1:46 PM # 
eddie:
YEAH!! Merja!!!!!
Jul 12, 2013 1:46 PM # 
eddie:
Yes Yes!
Jul 12, 2013 1:46 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
Got her!
Jul 12, 2013 1:48 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
That is soooo sweet!
Jul 12, 2013 1:48 PM # 
iansmith:
Simone's splits; It's good to be on top: http://online.woc2013.fi/tulokset/en/2013_woc_midd...
Jul 12, 2013 1:48 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
57 second #13 did it for her
Jul 12, 2013 1:49 PM # 
stever:
Wow, can Tove ever *run*!
Jul 12, 2013 1:50 PM # 
eddie:
Tove picked up time in the last loop, didn't she?
Jul 12, 2013 1:53 PM # 
eddie:
I almost ran a beer race with Merja at the banquet in Norway. At the old submarine base. 3-person teams, and somehow it was me, Merja and Ri (the North Korean guy - his idea). Well, we had to gather up some coin to enter. Ri had no money. I thnk I had a few crowns but not enough to cover him. We needed a third so asked Anni-Maija, but she said she doesn't drink. Merja jumped right in. The two of them had won gold in the relay earlier that day! Ri and I needed all the help we could get. But when we went to register they said we were "too late." I begged, but no joy. Funny what memories stick in your mind.
Jul 12, 2013 1:54 PM # 
Niall:
Bravo Emily on 26th place!! Ahead by 2 seconds. Lots of these tight results all over.
Jul 12, 2013 1:56 PM # 
iansmith:
Alas for Minna, finishing just outside of the medals again.
Jul 12, 2013 1:58 PM # 
stever:
Neat, kewl shot of Ali punching in the final summary ...
Jul 12, 2013 1:59 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
Well geez, that was really fun to watch.

Jul 12, 2013 2:01 PM # 
stever:
Again, kudos to SVT for great coverage.
Jul 12, 2013 2:03 PM # 
eddie:
Yes, great fun. Will try to catch the American feed on TV tonight. They only have 8 hrs to put it together - busy, busy.
Jul 12, 2013 2:03 PM # 
Niall:
Now I have to go back to.. uh, make that to _start_ working. Relays tomorrow: at home, so full streaming capacity, woohoo! 7am eastern men, 9am eastern women.
Jul 12, 2013 2:07 PM # 
eddie:
Online results now show people one place up - Emily 25, Ali 28.

(edit) Ah, its the miscounting of ties in the live results that Ed pointed out a few days ago. There are two at 7th.
Jul 12, 2013 2:07 PM # 
stever:
Re US feed, yeah, I'm going to try a different sports bar tonight. Tried last night, but the place I went to only had comcast cable.
Jul 12, 2013 2:08 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
Some Screenshots:
WOC NA Women Screen Shots
Jul 12, 2013 2:09 PM # 
carlch:
My wife called around first to find out which places had USN and also about audio, etc.
Jul 12, 2013 2:09 PM # 
eddie:
Nice Hugh!
Jul 12, 2013 2:14 PM # 
j-man:
Hugh (or anyone else)--can someone please tell me where I can watch this in the Philadelphia area? I feel deprived.
Jul 12, 2013 2:17 PM # 
eddie:
I have to say I was really happy with the SVT feed. The edit seemed just about right, with a good mix of everything - starters, runners in the forest, finishers, route analysis, some crowd shots, results updates. I think they showed all the starters. I never felt like asking "why aren't they showing more of X?"
Jul 12, 2013 2:19 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
Online?

Live Results
Live GPS
Live Video

Good coverage!

On a bigscreen at a bar? Hmm ... no idea. Maybe you can get Dish installed by this evening for TNT?
Jul 12, 2013 2:21 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
Maybe Quotations or Sligo in Media? Plumstead Inn (oh the (vague, fuzzy) memories)!
Jul 12, 2013 2:22 PM # 
eddie:
Buffalo Wild Wings on Rt 1 at 322?
Jul 12, 2013 2:31 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
AMAZING to see a GPS logger (one that I have owned for 2 years?) advertised alongside Orienteering programming during PRIME TIME FRIDAY NIGHT on a big-time TV network. Wow!

Jul 12, 2013 2:36 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
And I find the FiOS ad pretty ironically placed in the above USN image, since Verizon doesn't carry USN. :)
Jul 12, 2013 2:40 PM # 
Pink Socks:
I went to Buffalo Wild Wings on Wednesday because a) I know they have a lot of TV's so getting my own wouldn't be an issue, and b) a Google search shows that they have DirecTV. I've been there before to watch basketball games in Seattle with friends who went to Texas A&M and SLU, so I know that they have access to a lot of channels.

I did another Google search of DirecTV bars in Wichita, and the one right behind my hotel (attached to a bowling alley) came up. I guess I did get a little lucky here in that they had channel #625; reading others above suggests that DirecTV does not automatically include that channel. I was also fortunate that they allowed me to turn on the sound.

I'm driving up to Kansas City to see family this weekend, so I don't think I'll be able to watch. But, not having to work on Saturday morning means that I should be able to do the whole online viewing experience!
Jul 12, 2013 2:41 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
The beers at Quotations are even up to your standards j-man.
Jul 12, 2013 2:50 PM # 
andrewd:
hughmac4: you do realise that a significant portion of ads nowadays are targeted at individual users? What you, the user, are searching for and looking at online will dictate what ads you see.
Jul 12, 2013 2:58 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
Hah, good point Andrew. :) I think I did do a search for the Holux recently, to get the latest firmware. Still ironic for the FiOS ad though.
Jul 12, 2013 3:54 PM # 
MJChilds:
We're looking forward to returning to McGillicuddy's Irish Pub near Burlington, VT tonight to watch the Middle Final. We can get a booth with our own remote and control the sound. It was noisy last night for the Long Final, so it was a little hard to hear, but it was a real thrill to pick up 90 percent of what they were saying. For once, I appreciated the commercials because we could look at the menus and order, talk to each other about the race, and chillout briefly. We had printed the mens and women's results which were fun to refer to, and had a copy of the men's map (I forgot to print the women's), which was a bit too reduced to read very well, but it helped to be able to refer to the overall picture.

I liked that the announcers explained a bit about the mechanics of the sport, including a mention that a competitor who we saw running away from a control was indeed running in the right direction. These subtle details are nice for us and very helpful for the uninitiated to understand what makes orienteering different from a run through the woods.

Can't wait to watch the North American women on TV tonight! Look how far we've come. Thanks, Universal Sports TV! (And all the others whose passion for technology has brought our sport to the interactive level it is today.)
Jul 12, 2013 5:51 PM # 
slauenstein:
Who is running the relay for the US tomorrow?
Jul 12, 2013 5:55 PM # 
iansmith:
Relay teams

US men: Eric Bone, Boris Granovskiy, Ross Smith
US women: Alison Crocker, Samantha Saeger, Hannah Culberg

Canada men: Will Critchley, Robbie Anderson, Eric Kemp
Canada women: Emily Kemp, Louise Oram, Kerstin Burnett

Some surprises for me:
- Kyburz anchoring Merz and Hubmann
- Tove running first leg for Sweden, perhaps trying to break away from the pack?
Jul 13, 2013 11:02 AM # 
Niall:
Men's Relay video
Can't find live gps on GPSSeuranta
The WOC website isn't having any valid live results for me
Jul 13, 2013 11:12 AM # 
Niall:
Well, there goes France's chances. Thierry can't really catch up on that kind of mistake...
Jul 13, 2013 11:18 AM # 
Niall:
Merz in the lead by a few seconds, and the top of the pack is unusual - but the big guns are part of it and may be just pacing themselves to take the lead later on.
Jul 13, 2013 11:23 AM # 
Niall:
Yup, Finland second now at 3.8km, Czechs still in the top pack. Saw a shot of Eric early on the first control, about 2/3 of the way down the pack.
Jul 13, 2013 11:30 AM # 
Niall:
End of first leg: Switzerland, Norway as a pack (+8), the rest starting at +45.
Jul 13, 2013 11:32 AM # 
Niall:
Ooo, TV had a very nice closeup on Boris waiting, and Robbie next to him. Nice fodder for the US stream. :)
Jul 13, 2013 11:41 AM # 
cmorse:
YLE nice shot of Eric tagging off to Boris....
Jul 13, 2013 11:41 AM # 
cmorse:
Nice placement of the Team USA banner too, btw...
Jul 13, 2013 11:43 AM # 
Niall:
Yup, didn't see the changeover for Canada. Wish we had the full map, but there's plenty of "Where is X going?" moments...
Jul 13, 2013 11:56 AM # 
Niall:
Ooo, NICE shot of Valentin Novikov vaulting over the small cliff to spike the 3.8km control!
Jul 13, 2013 11:56 AM # 
backwoods:
when does the women's race start?
Jul 13, 2013 12:00 PM # 
Niall:
And leg 2 ending, Ukraine in the lead?? with 15 seconds lead? Whoo, lots of surprises!
Jul 13, 2013 12:00 PM # 
Niall:
Women's starts around 9am
Jul 13, 2013 12:03 PM # 
igor_:
nice gap
Jul 13, 2013 12:06 PM # 
backwoods:
thanks
Jul 13, 2013 12:24 PM # 
Niall:
Yeah, Estonia had a smidgen of a chance but it's gone now. Russia-Ukraine(!)-Sweden fighting it out.
Jul 13, 2013 12:27 PM # 
Niall:
Annnnd Russia takes a lead, either Ukraine of Sweden made a mistake, the other followed... of such heartbreaks are relays made!
Jul 13, 2013 12:29 PM # 
Canadian:
Thierry is taking a serious bite out of that gap... at 1.5 km he's already gained almost a minute on the leaders!!
Jul 13, 2013 12:30 PM # 
backwoods:
Canadian...are you getting splits somewhere? i haven't been able to find any...
Jul 13, 2013 12:31 PM # 
Canadian:
Backwoods: http://online.woc2013.fi/tulokset/fi/2013_woc_rela...
Jul 13, 2013 12:36 PM # 
Niall:
Thanks Canadian!
Jul 13, 2013 12:36 PM # 
backwoods:
thanks...
Jul 13, 2013 12:39 PM # 
Niall:
And Ukraine's first-ever Relay medal, I believe?
Jul 13, 2013 12:43 PM # 
Niall:
Thierry put France from 9th to 5th!! If it wasn't for the error in the first leg... This will be interesting to check leg speed!
Jul 13, 2013 12:44 PM # 
Canadian:
Yeah, he almost gained 3 minutes on a 5 km course. Massive!

I suspect you're right about Ukraine's medal count.
Jul 13, 2013 12:44 PM # 
vmeyer:
Looks like from 14th to 8th for Thierry/France...
Jul 13, 2013 12:48 PM # 
vmeyer:
Showing Kopter shots for Eddie!!
Jul 13, 2013 12:50 PM # 
Niall:
And looking at the Wikipedia site, this seems Ukraine's first-ever medal, period. And us Canadians know how they feel. :)
Jul 13, 2013 12:55 PM # 
Niall:
And yes, there was a brief kopter shot of the mass start. Someone will be happy. :)
Jul 13, 2013 12:56 PM # 
vmeyer:
TV switchover, so go to the bottom of the screen and restart if you lost coverage.
Jul 13, 2013 12:57 PM # 
Niall:
Women's Relay video
Relay live results
Jul 13, 2013 12:58 PM # 
Niall:
So what happens to the men still out in the field?
Also, are you disqualified if you get lapped?
Jul 13, 2013 1:00 PM # 
Niall:
Tall Ali and Smiling Emily. Easy to spot. :)
Jul 13, 2013 1:02 PM # 
vmeyer:
Cat and Ali taking it out in front.
Jul 13, 2013 1:02 PM # 
Niall:
Ali 2nd in the pack as they get to the field! Emily about 10th!
Jul 13, 2013 1:03 PM # 
Canadian:
Niall, No disqualification for get lapped. Nothing normally happens to runners still out in the field. They get to finish just like everyone else.
Jul 13, 2013 1:06 PM # 
Becks:
Switch on their GPS unit traces dammit!
Jul 13, 2013 1:06 PM # 
Niall:
Ah, good. I guess some like China just abandoned then. Japan is listed as "hlatty" at leg 2, not sure what that means...
Jul 13, 2013 1:07 PM # 
Niall:
Becks, I may be wrong, but I think only some have GPS for relay - the top 15 rated teams?
Jul 13, 2013 1:07 PM # 
Becks:
Oh, okay. That's a shame. Just have to keenly watch the TV.
Jul 13, 2013 1:08 PM # 
Becks:
It's a shame because I expect both Cat and Ali to figure in this first leg - fingers crossed!
Jul 13, 2013 1:09 PM # 
Becks:
Whooooooo! They just added Cat!
Jul 13, 2013 1:11 PM # 
Becks:
Argh, she made a mistake about three seconds later :( Hopefully not a big one though.
Jul 13, 2013 1:12 PM # 
Niall:
Looks like Cat and Tove are together after control 3!
Jul 13, 2013 1:12 PM # 
fossil:
Ali appeared briefly and then disappeared again. She was still with leaders.
Jul 13, 2013 1:13 PM # 
Becks:
Cat is ahead of Tove :)
Jul 13, 2013 1:13 PM # 
backwoods:
Goooooo Emily!!!!
Jul 13, 2013 1:13 PM # 
backwoods:
and Ali 4 seconds behind!!!
Jul 13, 2013 1:13 PM # 
Niall:
Emily 11th, Ali 12th seconds behind! Woot!
Jul 13, 2013 1:14 PM # 
Becks:
Can I just say, this announcer is a d**k. "If the information is right, Cat Taylor should be there." "EVEN Canada and the USA have been here." Has he bothered to research these people at all? Maybe the teams aren't expected to perform, but these runners have had fantastic relay results over the last year, and at last WOC. Grrr.
Jul 13, 2013 1:16 PM # 
backwoods:
Becks...which video stream are you watching?
Jul 13, 2013 1:16 PM # 
vmeyer:
Live lineup is showing that it is Emma, not Tove on Leg 1. I didn't see the visual lineup, so can NOT say for sure who started 1st for Sweden...
Jul 13, 2013 1:17 PM # 
Niall:
Loooong kopter start shot. It showed by how much Cat and Ali were in front.
Jul 13, 2013 1:18 PM # 
Niall:
Emily's tracer!! YES!
Jul 13, 2013 1:18 PM # 
backwoods:
GPS now showing for Emily
Jul 13, 2013 1:19 PM # 
Becks:
I'm listening to the paid stream and watching svt coverage.
Jul 13, 2013 1:20 PM # 
j-man:
CopterCam is awesome.
Jul 13, 2013 1:21 PM # 
Becks:
Wrong gaffle for SWE.
Jul 13, 2013 1:24 PM # 
Becks:
WWWWWWHOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOO!
Jul 13, 2013 1:24 PM # 
stever:
Cat!
Jul 13, 2013 1:28 PM # 
Niall:
China 12th?? and the camera pans away as Emily arrives!
Jul 13, 2013 1:28 PM # 
backwoods:
Lucky #13 so far....keep it up Emily!!
Jul 13, 2013 1:29 PM # 
Niall:
One SVT announcer keeps calling Cat "Christine"... and there's Ali, nice shot of "stop, check, turn, see, run for spiking".
Jul 13, 2013 1:31 PM # 
stever:
Cat 2nd ....
Jul 13, 2013 1:31 PM # 
eddie:
Gaaaa! Alarm didn't go off? Or I slept through it. :( I missed the entire mens race. I must be 2 full nights behind on sleep at this point.

Fortunately the backup (hungry cat) worked at 9:15 :)
Aww man. So disappointed.
Jul 13, 2013 1:34 PM # 
Becks:
Luckily the women's race is totally awesome Eddie!
Jul 13, 2013 1:34 PM # 
Delyn:
me too, mens race can be watched as replay with the link above. watching mens muted and the womens right now.
Jul 13, 2013 1:34 PM # 
Niall:
And the crowd goes wild for local girl winning leg 1.. but Cat did a fantastic run!
Jul 13, 2013 1:36 PM # 
vmeyer:
Ah, Eddie! I was wondering where you where!
Jul 13, 2013 1:37 PM # 
stever:
Emily in the shoot ...
Jul 13, 2013 1:38 PM # 
Nick:
awesome Emily !
finishing
Jul 13, 2013 1:38 PM # 
Niall:
EMILY ELEVENTH!!!
Jul 13, 2013 1:38 PM # 
backwoods:
Way to go Emily!!! Fantastic!
Jul 13, 2013 1:38 PM # 
eddie:
blink blink. Was that Emily?
Jul 13, 2013 1:41 PM # 
fossil:
odd, i'm watching svt video and only have 8 finishers so far
Jul 13, 2013 1:41 PM # 
Niall:
Didn't you see the dazzling smile? :)
Jul 13, 2013 1:41 PM # 
j-man:
Nice Emily!
Jul 13, 2013 1:41 PM # 
stever:
Doesn't appear to be Ali's day ... :(
Jul 13, 2013 1:42 PM # 
Niall:
Ali finishes 16th!
Jul 13, 2013 1:43 PM # 
eddie:
Go get em Alex!!
Jul 13, 2013 1:44 PM # 
eddie:
Oh (yawn) crap. (blink blink). What year is this? I think I'm watching a WOC relay live in my living room. Maybe I'm still asleep?
Jul 13, 2013 1:44 PM # 
Suzanne:
go Sam!
Jul 13, 2013 1:45 PM # 
vmeyer:
That was Sam, sleepyhead.
Jul 13, 2013 1:46 PM # 
stever:
GBR hanging in there!
Jul 13, 2013 1:49 PM # 
Niall:
Nice tree, SVT. Is that all you can show us?..
Jul 13, 2013 1:50 PM # 
Becks:
Eep Hollie, stick with them!
Jul 13, 2013 1:52 PM # 
eddie:
Geez. I was switching over to the big screen - everything was fuzzy. Crap crap crap :(
Jul 13, 2013 1:52 PM # 
eddie:
Does someone have a link to the live GPS?
Jul 13, 2013 1:54 PM # 
Becks:
There is no live GPS today, unless they're bringing it out for the last leg.
Jul 13, 2013 1:54 PM # 
Niall:
I haven't found a link to GPS.

Louise is still 11th at the 1.5km control!
Jul 13, 2013 1:58 PM # 
Wyatt:
There's a note that "live GPS is part of the TV broadcast" today - so no traditional app broadcast...
Jul 13, 2013 1:58 PM # 
stever:
Billstam made up some time ...
Jul 13, 2013 2:00 PM # 
Wyatt:
and universalsports.com is stalling now - no more video for me :(
Jul 13, 2013 2:01 PM # 
stever:
Woah, Swiss making huge mistakes.
Jul 13, 2013 2:04 PM # 
Niall:
So it's Scandanivia then GBR at the second leg finish...
Jul 13, 2013 2:04 PM # 
Becks:
Yey Mari! Great race!
Jul 13, 2013 2:05 PM # 
j-man:
Is it my internet or their uplink? Tedious.
Jul 13, 2013 2:06 PM # 
stever:
Yahhhh GBR!
Jul 13, 2013 2:07 PM # 
eddie:
Hong Kong is FLYING through the chute!
Jul 13, 2013 2:10 PM # 
Niall:
Louise 10th at 2.,7km!!
Jul 13, 2013 2:11 PM # 
Niall:
Thank you Eddie, I was wondering who was that overtaking so quickly but not appearing on the results.. 1st leg finisher, but doing so in style. :)
Jul 13, 2013 2:11 PM # 
backwoods:
Go Louise!!!!
Jul 13, 2013 2:11 PM # 
eddie:
Where is Ireland? Are the results updating? I'm confused.
Jul 13, 2013 2:11 PM # 
stever:
Not so live results have Louise in 10th
Jul 13, 2013 2:13 PM # 
Niall:
..Denmark.. Denmark, staahhhp... :)
Jul 13, 2013 2:13 PM # 
stever:
Doh, Denmark lost at control 1 .... good for GBR
Jul 13, 2013 2:14 PM # 
Niall:
Live results

You can check times at several controls along the way.
Jul 13, 2013 2:14 PM # 
graeme:
Yuri Omeltchenko?
Jul 13, 2013 2:14 PM # 
backwoods:
Louise still doing well...11th
Jul 13, 2013 2:15 PM # 
Becks:
I am a big fan of Klingenberg but today......cooooooommmmeeee oooonnnn Claire! Capitalise!
Jul 13, 2013 2:15 PM # 
eddie:
Yeah, thats what I'm looking at.
Jul 13, 2013 2:16 PM # 
eddie:
Here's my spectating setup at home this morning:
Jul 13, 2013 2:17 PM # 
Niall:
Italy juuust pulled ahead of Louise after being neck-in-neck for half the leg
Jul 13, 2013 2:17 PM # 
Niall:
Niiice, Eddie! I just have tabs on the same computer. :)
Jul 13, 2013 2:18 PM # 
eddie:
Ahh, there's Niamh. Go go Roz!!
Jul 13, 2013 2:18 PM # 
backwoods:
But then Louise takes over Italy again!!
Jul 13, 2013 2:18 PM # 
Niall:
Louise finished 11th by 2 seconds! Goooo Kerstin!
Jul 13, 2013 2:18 PM # 
backwoods:
Go Canada!! Fantastic racing ladies!!
Jul 13, 2013 2:19 PM # 
eddie:
Nice LOUISE!!!!! Yeah!
Jul 13, 2013 2:20 PM # 
Canadian:
Let's go Kerstin!!!

Top 16 / top half result this year??
Jul 13, 2013 2:21 PM # 
eddie:
Is there more camerawork on YLE maybe? The SVT feed is all GPS tracking of the leaders. I'd rather have cameras on the vid and my own GPS tracker on a computer so I can follow our guys.
Jul 13, 2013 2:22 PM # 
stever:
Fooey, GBR having trouble ....
Jul 13, 2013 2:23 PM # 
Niall:
I was looking at the wrong times - leg times, not change-over.. Louise is TENTH! Fantastic! Though Lithuania is 3.5 minutes ahead, and Italy 9 seconds behind.

And they just showed leg 3's traces at control 3. Looked like a bunch of drunk people, so many mistakes...
Jul 13, 2013 2:23 PM # 
eddie:
Anabel and Sam soon?
Jul 13, 2013 2:24 PM # 
Niall:
Canadian, there's 2.5 minutes behind Kerstin/Italy, so if ... wait, no, I won't jinx it, I'll just watch. :)
Jul 13, 2013 2:25 PM # 
Tooms:
GBR sperm having trouble fertilising the egg at control 2!
Jul 13, 2013 2:26 PM # 
Niall:
Tooms, I may have woken up anyone in the building still sleeping at that comment...
Jul 13, 2013 2:28 PM # 
eddie:
Alex on course.
Jul 13, 2013 2:28 PM # 
eddie:
She can pick up Spain on the last leg here!
Jul 13, 2013 2:28 PM # 
vmeyer:
Um, Hannah is listed for 3rd leg...
Jul 13, 2013 2:29 PM # 
eddie:
Yeah Sam!!
Jul 13, 2013 2:29 PM # 
eddie:
Wait, who ran first??
Jul 13, 2013 2:31 PM # 
vmeyer:
Ali, Sam, Hannah is the listed lineup.
Jul 13, 2013 2:31 PM # 
fossil:
SWE big boom at 2 puts SUI back in the medal hunt
Jul 13, 2013 2:31 PM # 
backwoods:
The race for third is going to be exciting!
Jul 13, 2013 2:31 PM # 
Becks:
GPS up now, usual place. Can't link, Java having a meltdown.
Jul 13, 2013 2:31 PM # 
eddie:
:) Ok, go Hannah!! Sorry girl!

I've been sitting here for an hour and no one has come over to make me any coffee. What's up with that?
Jul 13, 2013 2:32 PM # 
backwoods:
ummm....until SWE took a left turn!
Jul 13, 2013 2:32 PM # 
Niall:
And Niggli is 3rd at 2.7km!
Jul 13, 2013 2:33 PM # 
Becks:
gps.tulospalvelu.fi/gps/2013wocRW3

Might be right.
Jul 13, 2013 2:33 PM # 
eddie:
Awesome, thanks.
Jul 13, 2013 2:34 PM # 
eddie:
Can Hannah make up 3 mins on CAN? Wait, no its way more than 3 right?
Jul 13, 2013 2:34 PM # 
Niall:
Kerstin is 13th at 1.5km, both Italy and _Latvia_ overtook her...
Jul 13, 2013 2:36 PM # 
fossil:
Is my screen that far behind? I'm just seeing Niggli correcting from a 180 on her way to 4F
Jul 13, 2013 2:38 PM # 
Niall:
US was 7.5min behind of Can at changeover of 2nd
Jul 13, 2013 2:39 PM # 
stever:
Fossil maybe. Norway already won, Finland in the shoot for 2nd ...
Jul 13, 2013 2:39 PM # 
igor_:
gonna be interesting for bronze
Jul 13, 2013 2:40 PM # 
backwoods:
Wow...tight for bronze!!!
Jul 13, 2013 2:41 PM # 
Becks:
Come on Tove, sprint finish with those two would be AMAZING!
Jul 13, 2013 2:41 PM # 
backwoods:
Simone missed it!!
Jul 13, 2013 2:42 PM # 
stever:
Go get her Tove!
Jul 13, 2013 2:42 PM # 
backwoods:
no maybe not...
Jul 13, 2013 2:42 PM # 
eddie:
Whoa! Tove with a bead on Simone!
Jul 13, 2013 2:43 PM # 
fossil:
NOR crossed finish line just now on my screen...
Jul 13, 2013 2:45 PM # 
eddie:
Wonder if I'll finally learn how to read the results before the end of the race :)
Or even know who's running. Gah.
Jul 13, 2013 2:46 PM # 
Becks:
Yup fossil, you're miles behind.
Jul 13, 2013 2:46 PM # 
eddie:
Hannah and Kerstin on the same trail now
Jul 13, 2013 2:47 PM # 
eddie:
I'm much happier with the GPS tracking on the laptop now.
Jul 13, 2013 2:48 PM # 
vmeyer:
For me, the posting of the radio controls results appear about a minute before the same result is shown on the svt broadcast.
Jul 13, 2013 2:50 PM # 
eddie:
Someone tell me they didn't just end the video coverage?
Jul 13, 2013 2:50 PM # 
fossil:
Tove gave it to Simone back at control #2.
Jul 13, 2013 2:50 PM # 
stever:
"Broadcasting is temporarily unavailable"?
Jul 13, 2013 2:52 PM # 
Becks:
They just ended both streams, ads on the paid service.

Just came back.
Jul 13, 2013 2:53 PM # 
Becks:
Nope, no visuals, just a photo montage. F**k.
Jul 13, 2013 2:53 PM # 
fossil:
Watching from a laptop using a cell phone hotspot, sitting in a camper in a state park. At least it's 3G.
Jul 13, 2013 2:56 PM # 
eddie:
Kerstin through the 2.7 now
Jul 13, 2013 2:57 PM # 
eddie:
fossil, that is awesome.
Jul 13, 2013 2:57 PM # 
Niall:
Kerstin's tracing was... interesting.
Jul 13, 2013 2:57 PM # 
eddie:
As the Queen of CT State parks is with us this morning, can you tell us:

Which park?

and

How nice are the toilets? :)
Jul 13, 2013 3:00 PM # 
Niall:
Should it be worrisome that neither Ireland nor Hong Kong's 2nd leg runners have punched in yet at the 2.7km control??
Jul 13, 2013 3:03 PM # 
eddie:
Roz just there now.
Jul 13, 2013 3:05 PM # 
eddie:
Whoa, Hannah and Kerstin!
Jul 13, 2013 3:07 PM # 
eddie:
Yeah HANNAH!
Jul 13, 2013 3:08 PM # 
Pink Socks:
hannah!
Jul 13, 2013 3:09 PM # 
eddie:
Han-NA Han-NA!!!
Jul 13, 2013 3:10 PM # 
Niall:
.....go kerstin, wherever you are :) (gps trace is more lost than found for her)
Jul 13, 2013 3:10 PM # 
Becks:
Today there is no park, as I am now rushing to get ready to spend a day in my other job as mouse maternal "care" worker. The toilets at work are pretty grim and smell of wet rat.
Jul 13, 2013 3:10 PM # 
Pink Socks:
can she outsprint the german?
Jul 13, 2013 3:10 PM # 
fossil:
Chenango Valley SP in NY. Toilets are about average for NY parks. Seen better, definitely seen worse. Video is above average. Rarely seen better. Frequently seen worse.

The earlier races this week had much less video compression artifacts, but I'm not sure if that's due to problems with today's broadcasts or because maybe my bandwidth isn't sufficient to allow time for full decompression. It was good enough to follow the races but not good enough to make out faces or frequently smaller text such as time back from leader.
Jul 13, 2013 3:10 PM # 
Niall:
whoa, US vs germany here, a second apart!
Jul 13, 2013 3:11 PM # 
Pink Socks:
it's land of the dead GPS units...
Jul 13, 2013 3:12 PM # 
Pink Socks:
Hannah's in! 19th.
Jul 13, 2013 3:12 PM # 
Becks:
Are you watching Niall or just results/GPS?
Jul 13, 2013 3:13 PM # 
eddie:
Nice Hannah!
Jul 13, 2013 3:13 PM # 
Niall:
And Germany sprints way ahead of Hannah... (17 secs)
Jul 13, 2013 3:13 PM # 
Niall:
Just results and GPS, the SVT video was only 2 hours long
Jul 13, 2013 3:14 PM # 
eddie:
Would have been fun cheering Hannah with Germany just ahead in the chute.
Jul 13, 2013 3:15 PM # 
eddie:
I think the vid quality was the same as it has been (very good on SVT), so probably just your bandwidth today fossil.
Jul 13, 2013 3:16 PM # 
eddie:
Kerstin at the finish.
Jul 13, 2013 3:17 PM # 
Niall:
Kerstin is in, 20th, 2:13 after Hannah.
Jul 13, 2013 3:18 PM # 
Pink Socks:
Hey, this thread reached #1 all-time longest on Attackpoint this morning.
Jul 13, 2013 3:20 PM # 
stever:
So then, like, if I type this, I'm adding to the record?
Jul 13, 2013 3:20 PM # 
vmeyer:
What I think is a hoot about this thread being all time longest is that it is the one titled USA WOC Thread, and not the other general WOC thread.
Jul 13, 2013 3:20 PM # 
fossil:
yeah, that's what i was assuming, so didn't stress about it. at least they're using the compression format that shows all blocks fuzzy at first and then fills in details later if time permits, rather than the older ones that just left holes or unupdated blocks from previous frames.

Did Kerstin's gps just die? Or is she standing still?
Jul 13, 2013 3:22 PM # 
eddie:
I'm watching the vid replay now and catching up. Very cool to see Cat Taylor up front through those first several intermediates.

Also nice seeing her and Ali at the front of the start pack heading into the woods.
Jul 13, 2013 3:22 PM # 
Pink Socks:
When a thread gets longer that that crazy logo one, I get excited.
Jul 13, 2013 3:22 PM # 
fossil:
Oh. I see you all reported her at the finish while I was typing. My gps screen still shows her standing still near #7. At one point her dot got run over by CHN.
Jul 13, 2013 3:22 PM # 
Niall:
Kerstin's gps died since she's finished. The race, I mean.
Jul 13, 2013 3:26 PM # 
eddie:
Anything but that "you know you are a geek" thread...
Jul 13, 2013 3:27 PM # 
Niall:
Hong Kong and Ireland are not throwing in the towel!
Jul 13, 2013 3:27 PM # 
eddie:
Yeah, they're keeping after it.
Jul 13, 2013 3:29 PM # 
eddie:
I'm hearing some vuvuzela action on the audio. Anybody know if Ross is the only one with a horn there?
Jul 13, 2013 3:29 PM # 
fossil:
Good for them. Keep at it girls! At least they have someone to compete with still.
Jul 13, 2013 3:32 PM # 
eddie:
I think its time I made some coffee. So, so very disappointed to have overslept and missed the entire men's race and the women's start. Even stayed up late updating software so the vid would work at home. Really sorry guys!
Jul 13, 2013 3:35 PM # 
Pink Socks:
Maybe Ireland can catch Japan?
Jul 13, 2013 3:38 PM # 
Niall:
Don't think so, unless Japan makes a big error. ...like 15% of the runners today. ahem.
Jul 13, 2013 3:38 PM # 
fossil:
Fun fact: I played in the pit orchestra for a Dryden High School production of Oliver! about... hmm, maybe 13 years ago. In the trumpet section with me was... Ross Smith.
Jul 13, 2013 3:39 PM # 
Pink Socks:
Japan just finally found #7 a few minutes ago, after wandering around a bit. I think Japan's got this now.
Jul 13, 2013 3:39 PM # 
fossil:
Looks like HKG is closing the gap on IRL though!
Jul 13, 2013 3:42 PM # 
vmeyer:
Really missed you this morning, Eddie!
Jul 13, 2013 3:42 PM # 
Pink Socks:
Oh man, Japan with a mistake to #8, but IRL and HKG aren't gaining!
Jul 13, 2013 3:44 PM # 
Pink Socks:
Japan's got it, Hong Kong trending well, Ireland regroups and nails it!
Jul 13, 2013 3:48 PM # 
Niall:
...we're either finding excitement wheverer we can, or we really sympathise with these three because that's how we'd be doing in their place? :)
Jul 13, 2013 3:49 PM # 
eddie:
C'mon susan!
Jul 13, 2013 3:49 PM # 
eddie:
Ha, just saw the wave being done in the arena on the replay :)
Jul 13, 2013 3:53 PM # 
Niall:
And Japan is done! I'm not sure the intermediary controls are being posted online anymore though.
Jul 13, 2013 3:54 PM # 
Pink Socks:
Ireland doesn't have a split at 2.7km, but her track goes through there.
Jul 13, 2013 3:58 PM # 
eddie:
Would they have pulled the radio out already?!
Jul 13, 2013 3:59 PM # 
Niall:
Japan didn't have a split at 3.7 or 3.9, and Spain didn't have a split at 3.9, so they may have stopped them a while ago.
Jul 13, 2013 4:06 PM # 
eddie:
If I'm reading this right (and I'm probably not :), IRL effectively has 10 mins on HKG at the mass-start of leg 3, so if susan can finish closer than that they'll be ahead.
Jul 13, 2013 4:09 PM # 
Pink Socks:
Maybe they needed the radio controls for the banquet? I hope the finish line is still there!
Jul 13, 2013 4:12 PM # 
eddie:
Start the clock. I think she's got it no prob.
Jul 13, 2013 4:12 PM # 
eddie:
Go susan GO!!
Jul 13, 2013 4:13 PM # 
Niall:
eddie, so I wasn't mistaken in seeing a leg 3 start for ireland (I guess HK's gps was not working) - the 7:30 minutes advance would be too much for HK to overtake, yeah. We'll know in a minute or three as Ireland is on the last two controls.
Jul 13, 2013 4:14 PM # 
Pink Socks:
And scene!
Jul 13, 2013 4:15 PM # 
eddie:
She's in! With a couple mins to spare over HKG.
Jul 13, 2013 4:17 PM # 
eddie:
Funny, I only have one power supply here with me, so I'm having to swap it between the two laptops every 20 mins or so. Driving the big screen over the DVI is really eating the power. Its kindof like sharing a rebreather in a diving rescue :)
Jul 13, 2013 4:25 PM # 
fossil:
My cell phone battery has dropped from 100% to 40% over the last 5.5 hours, despite being plugged into the laptop to keep it charging. And the laptop is plugged in to AC power and has remained fully charged. Time to logoff and go do camping stuff with live people.
Jul 13, 2013 4:26 PM # 
Niall:
If those woods are anything like the ones from the WOC2013 maps on Catching Features, I can understand the relay progress... and having seen the video, I think they're even thicker in parts!
Jul 13, 2013 4:51 PM # 
origamiguy:
fossil, recent laptops usually have one USB port with a higher power rating for charging. Check your hardware docs for info. More details:
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/115251-how-us...
Jul 13, 2013 5:16 PM # 
eddie:
Just saw a replay of the Koptercam footage from the women's start. Yeeeeahhh!!!
Jul 13, 2013 8:41 PM # 
Cristina:
I'm hearing some vuvuzela action on the audio. Anybody know if Ross is the only one with a horn there?

Pretty sure we had the only vuvuzela, though before Ross came in it was mostly me doing the tooting, with some solos by Brendan and Alli. :-)
Jul 13, 2013 8:45 PM # 
Cristina:
Thanks to everyone who has been following along and cheering from home! The team's been busy and focused this week, but I can assure you that they all appreciate it and love the fact that people are watching online and in sports bars (!).

The team is taking some well-deserved celebration time at the banquet now, and tomorrow we'll all spread back out over the world, ready to start training on Monday for WOC 2014.
Jul 14, 2013 2:47 PM # 
hughmac⁴:
My family had a great time at Waffles and WOC 2013 Relays yesterday at our house. It was first rate sports TV!



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