The first WOC race is tomorrow! Tight on time and short on internet, so for now I must direct you to the blog for more information, including some videos and start times for the long distance qualification tomorrow morning.Team USA Blog
Anyone found out how to follow the long qualification race?
The online coverage of the event is at the WOC site:
Apart from the women's long distance qualification, all events will have GPS tracking, including the men's long qual.
The GPS tracking is here and possibly requires payment of 10 euro:
Am investigating ...
Seems if you go to the above link, you can register and pay, and then you get live video coverage (after watching a couple minutes of commercials) of the finish, where at the moment nothing is going on.
After registering and paying, you can get GPS tracking here:
(although I haven't gotten it to work yet because I don't have java installed on this dinosaur of a computer).
The login for video at sportsground.fi
isn't quite working properly. After 5 minutes the video stops, saying that my time has run out. If I log in again, I get back on, maybe for only another 5 minutes. This is being discussed in chat at http://www.woc2013.fi/ssl/woc.nsf/sp?Open&cid=chat
GPS tracking very cool! Ross Smith from U.S. and Sergei Longvin from Canada on the course.
GPS tracking free only on Sunday because of problems with the service provider.
Ali in with a solid 9th. Louise 14, in Ali's heat. LaBaguette in at 12th. Neil very close with a 16th! Nick Simonin, 13th. Annabel one minute out in 17th. Catherine Taylor GBR the winner of Q2.
from the long qual. may update later.
"You must cut down the mightiest tree in the forest, wiiiiith..., a Herring!" (Ni)
Eddie, is that a little path running through the middle? A path, a path!
That guy has different coloured shoes!
Nice work Ali, and exciting times from Cat!
Roger the Shrubber and his two-tone shoes!
Really psyched about Ali's 9th in the qual! You can see a video of Ali takling about her race (briefly) on the blog, along with a detailed write-up from Wyatt about his race.
Tomorrow's the sprint! Here are US start times:
Alison Campbell 9:03
Ali Crocker 9:18
GPS tracking replay sprint qualification
Wow! Ali 4th in her sprint qual! Excellent!
Minute 35-37 of this: http://www.tulospalvelu.fi/gps/2013wocLongQ3/
has my chicken-coop route...
which is, as we'd (thankfully) browsed the day before, legal:
Been trying out this Tweety thing, follow @CristinaAwesome
for live updates, pictures, and video from WOC.
The splits say that Ali has a 14 min lead at 5.3 km... Ha! This isn't true, but she is doing well anyway. Go Ali!
They fixed it. Amélie still hasn't caught Ali, even though they were only a few seconds apart at number 6. Ali turned up the speed! Nice work!
Ali is taking a very far left route 10-11.
Interesting. I didn't even see that route but it's totally valid.
It seemed to work, put her 2 seconds up on Chataing at 11, when she had been down by a minute at 10!
Awesome route choice to 11, first place through the arena! amazing!!
Amazing race Ali! You make us proud!
It looks like Ali has finished? Currently 15th. I'm afraid I don't have many spectating options on the home computers :(
Ali had a really awesome run and she is totally psyched! She and Emily Kemp were all smiles today!
Only 5 runners still on course?
What a thrill to watch all of the favorites, including Ali, Louise, and Emily on the GPS mass start. Fantastic races Ali and Emily!!! I love technology right now.
Ali in 18th! Amazing race!!!!!
She's in the 5 min spread between 9th and 19th.
Top 20 - outstanding... excellent choice on the wide route to 11, Eliasson was the only other one I noted that went that way..
decent video coverage on YLE2. Showed Ali in the chute, also caught glimpses of wyatt & ndobbs in a the crowd...
in 10th - excellent.
Looks like Nick Simonin is running well so far. At the halfway radio now.
Big moment - Lakanen goes left on the long leg, Bertuks straight (as is Gueorgiou). If left works as well for the men as it did for Ali this could be very significant.
Oh, and by the way, the video has gone down again.
Doesn't look like it made as much difference for the men - Lakanen and Gueorgiou only 2 seconds apart on that leg.
Man, I want to see this leg. Need to get to a "real" computer.
bertuks misses now Lakanen and bertuks together - until the gaffling
Ah, yes. Thanks. Left route is about 500m longer with lots of road/track.
(I'm on a lame computer, too)
Lakanen seems to have opened up a little space.
Kiril on the bubble again this year. Good results, but I'm sure he wants more.
After 15 or so minutes, I get errors on both the Finnish and the Swedish YLE feeds, and they are unrecoverable.
yle worked almost perfectly for me. a few times it crashed when i switched from full screen to window - but refresh gt it back quickly
one of the better Tv coverages of O I have seen.
Online results worked oK for the long final
and GPS was availalble for free
so no complaints for me
I'm not sure what the schedule is (or maybe it hasn't been decided yet?) for WOC2014, as well as the qualifying rules, but it has been pointed out lots that this year's schedule for the first three days -- LQ, SQ and SF, and LF -- would make it hard to run both the sprint and the long.
I took a quick look at who ran both for the women. Of the 45 in the long final only 9 ran the SQ/SF the day before. All the others had a rest day.
Those that ran both and finished -- Simone Niggli (1st), Ali Crocker (18th), Gabija Ražaitytė (26th), Nataliya Dimitrova (32nd), Miek Fabré (33rd), Ursula Kadan (36th), Alicia Cobo Caballero (39th), Michela Guizzardi (44th), and Emma Klingenberg (DQ).
So it makes you wonder how much different the results would have been in either event had there been proper spacing. I have to imagine quite a lot.
And also wonder how it will affect the numbers allowed each country in 2014.
Is the middle qual underway? Looks like the live results should be here
, but nothing seems to be happening. First starts were 30 mins ago, right? Its awfully early in the morning...do I have the right day? :)
Lots of big mistakes for the women so far. It may be a while before any of them reach control 7.
Ah, there they go! Merja 20 mins to the first 2 km split. wow.
Ali is running well so far. Hannah is having problems getting to 2, but should know where 3 is really well now :)
Oh... even tougher out there than I was expecting.
The last km is a bit faster.
Its the first three controls that are giving everyone problems.
The time dispersions are going to be huge.
No video for the quals, right?
The sportsground (paid) video is working well today. Mostly just gps tracks, but there is commentary.
Sam just made it to the first control with no major problems. That may be all you need to make a final.
Oh. Maybe I should go in to the office after all. I was going to, but then I thought there would be no vid at all. I still only have this work laptop at home that can't do anything fun :)
How is Hannah coming along?
Hannah had issues coming down into her 4. Looks like she may have been pulled toward the heat 2 4 instead of her own.
9-10 is a big downhill into the finish. Ali is on her way down now and should be in soon.
Whoa! Thats really good. No int split for her yet?
Sam missed 2 to the south, seems to have figured it out and is headed back north again.
Looks like the intermediate splits are intermittent this morning.
No 7 split, 10 just showed up.
Yes, Ali with a very good time.
Thats solid. Should hold up well for a qual spot.
Will the cutoff be 50% behind the leader??
Sam just took a scenic detour to look at a cliff?
Kerstin Burnett's 40:26 might be enough to get in.
Hannah is on her way down to 10.
Big mistake for Sam on 4.
are there results somewhere?
Hannah just finished on the video, currently in 7th, +19min.
Sam found 5, just made it back to 4, and is now on her way back to 5 again.
They are there:http://online.woc2013.fi/tulokset/en/2013_woc_midd...
Interesting - first split is 4 to 17 minutes...
I have Sam at ~29min to 7 from the GPS.
She is running with Minna now 7->8
Looks like the 7km intermediate split stopped working at about 9:40 AM.
Ok, thats not bad. 38 finish? Maybe faster with Minna.
back to back mistakes for Niggli!
Minna dropped her, on her way down to 10 now.
Three more have come in just slightly ahead of Hannah - within 30s. Rats.
Looks like Emily has qualified.
Emily had a good run, just came in 30 seconds up on Ali.
Ross and the vuvuzella feature prominently on the audio stream.
The times have tightened up quite a bit in heat 3.
Its gonna be close for Sam. Biting my nails...
I presume Simone's mistakes were relatively small? How is she looking on the track?
GPS replay had her +30 on Ali at 8.
Whoa. That'll put her mid-pack at best.
Niggli will place about 6th in her heat just ahead of Kempster
I think Sam's in trouble unless Faron makes a mistake at the end. Heat B was the one to be in - it looks like the cut there is going to be 47 or 48, compared with 37-38 in the other two.
Its gonna be close for Sam. All up to Fanni now.
From GPS it looks like she will be in. Fanni just made it to 9, but never went to 4-5-6-7-8
Faron is just ahead of her.
Yeah Heat B. Hannah may be less than a minute behind the cut there.
Oooh, Annabel might make it in (heat B)!
Looks like Louise is Flint.
Brendan is on his way to 2, looks good so far. Eric just started.
I can only see the splits (I'm at work), so I really appreciate the GPS route updates! Thanks Ed.
Brendan had a mistake in the circle on 4, but was able to find it without too much wandering. Lots of errors for the men also.
Yeah, me too! Ali, Kempster, Annabel, Louise all officially qualified now.
Sam is actually 17th. The online splits don't number the ties correctly.
Eric just came through 5, finishing off the loop in the terrain that is giving everyone problems. Brendan is still having problems with 5, too far south.
Did Eric have any majors in there?
No, Eric is running really well.
So Ali has qualified for all three finals (and I assume she'll run in the relay as well). This is certainly a first for a US runner. And maybe the last :)
Looks like we've lost the other intermediate time as well. I wonder what the failure mode is?
The announcers are saying there is no data coming from the woods except the GPS.
I don't know anything about how radios could fail :)
Eric just came through 11, now he just has the downhill run in. Brendan is having a good run after he got out of the northern loop. Boris just started.
A few of the late splits are appearing again. The nerds are out wiggling things :)
Ah, all the 2nd intermediate times have backfilled from a buffer somewhere.
Ok, Eric is in. About 7 mins back in the B heat.
Brendan is coming into the last control and should be finishing soon, ~47min.
Boris is having big problems on 1.
set himself goals of 25-30% back today. Eric is 23% back in his heat.
~9min to the first control.
Wil Critchley in with a good run.
So how would you guys attack #1 in men's C
I like how Ross Morrison attacked it. Left of the line there is a small'ish plateau just before the veg boundary SE of the control. Then use the cliffs coming in. But the visibility must be poor.
The GPS has the men taking every possible route within ~50m of the line.
A couple of SUI have come in close to the target time, so Eric's % back has increased a little.
I was thinking the reentrant-veg bdy junction, then down either the L or right fork of that reentrant to come in from above or climb up over the big cliff. I'd run the serious risk of running down one of the many wrong forks in poor vis.
Looks like Nick may be pushed just out. Only a 5 min spread in B, 6 in A, but 10 in C.
Hey, the 1st intermediate times are filling in. Yay nerds!
But now the 2nd intermediate has stopped. Finnish Ed just said "WTF?!?"
Nick will be just out - maybe 20-30s.
Boris through the 1st int at 38. He'll be 49 or so.
Waiting for Eric Kemp. Hopefully he's past the 1st int already.
Mens C#1. East to the path, down to the big path, two lefts at the track junctions, follow the veg boundary up to the control circle, and wonder why they gave me the white course map :)
Ha! Did anyone actually do that?
So Ali has qualified for all three finals (and I assume she'll run in the relay as well). This is certainly a first for a US runner. And maybe the last :)
Actually, Ali did qualify for all three finals at WOC 2011 in France. I think she wasn't quite physically prepared for racing seven races in a week, so her legs were shot going into the finals. She seems to be better conditioned now and better prepared - and paced herself better, with less all-out sprinting in finish chutes.
Jovanovic. She was 19th on the leg, her best position on any leg.
Sorry Ian, I forgot about that! I may have even been in France at the time.
I was just looking at the clue descriptions on some of the middle quals. For example, women's A
#2, 3, 5, 9. Others too. In the US a course could be voided for the descriptions at 2, 5 and 9.
On #8 they felt the need to say which knoll, but on #9 where the knolls are even closer together they did not (and how could they given the other two knolls?) I think only #8 and 10 would be legal given the way I was taught to do it.
eddie's right. Why would they not describe which feature? has anyone complained?
Perhaps for #2 it is the top of the deeper part of the re-entrant but then it flattens out. So it may be confusing to specify top-of.
Not sure what's wrong with #5
For #9 maybe again it is the eastern of the two close knolls but then there is another one further east so there is ambiguity as well.
That's just my take, of course, you may be right.
I think eddie is complaining about the fact that there are multiple reentrants in the circle, but it is not specified which one the control is in (middle, eastern, western, ...).
The way courses are printed these days, it's possible to center the circle exactly over the control location and I think the description about exactly which feature it is (i.e. east, west, etc), is less important now than it was in the days when course printers or even hand drawn circles were used.
Just a little game I play with myself but when I look at these courses, I try to pick out what the feature at the center of the circle is and than look at the clue to see if I'm right.
In the US, if it were protested and the course voided, it would not necessarily be upheld if a grievance were filed. In a quick scan, I don't see any rule that would require a symbol in column C.
I agree with Carl, column C is to eliminate ambiguity, not to create a Simon-Says-style "gotcha" for the organizers. In looking at that map, I don't have any uncertainty about which feature is intended.
#2 is in a re-entrant over 50m long... in low vis woods...
Coming from the west, I passed, looked up and down the re-entrant, didn't see the control, left and came back. It could be considered inappropriate.
Middle final is underway now. Live vid on SVT:
Thierry just through a TV control. Looks overcast. Maybe partly sunny.
First women's start in about 25 mins. Louise starts at 8:24:30 AM EDT, Ali starts at 8:26 EDT, and Emily Kemp at 8:39:30 EDT.
Thierry one second ahead at 14!!
Incredible comeback! What a nail-biter!
Yes! Lots of video of the King this morning.
Novikov still matching Thierry at the 6km mark
Lots of radio controls - the later ones not reporting regularly though. At least the video has times at the TV controls.
Novikov and Hubmann in the chute!
Will kyburz sneak into the medals?
No - he'd need 30s in the chute :)
Novikov!!! j-man will be out of control! He'll have to be restrained.
Clem, you'll have to flip over that photo of Novikov in your living room in honor of this occasion!
I see the Russian team is sponsored by a Finnish compass maker this year.
The Live Results were solid. I was 'watching' that on my commute in this am (train). Compelling enough to have my nearest seatmates sending me sideways glances at my reactions.
The video quality at SVT, for free, from SWE, is darned good! Womens' just started broadcasting
LETS go AL-eee *clap clap clap-clap-clap*
LETS go AL-eee *clap clap clap-clap-clap*
Is this Russia's second-ever Gold? On the wikipedia site, I see one in the Long in 2005 and that's it. Well-deserved to Novikov in any case, what a great finish.
..and the women's live broadcast has started - as has Jasmine Neve.
Goooo Emily! And Louise! :)
Nice of them to stop traffic for the women's start...
15 mins to Louise and Ali's starts. Watch live!!
Annabel starts in 10 mins.
Looks like some tough stuff there at the start.
I dig the "smoke rings" when they punch on the GPS tracking!
Yeah, that's really super.
There should be a sound too. A "whump" or clapping.
Ok, 5 mins to the first NA gals.
:) I thought he looked different. New haircut maybe?
Just saw Louise running up to the second line. She's next!
That control 6 cam is awesome.
The gals are missing left on control 6.
Hahah, that control 6 cam is awesome. Well hidden.
LETS go AL-eee *clap clap clap-clap-clap*
LETS go AL-eee *clap clap clap-clap-clap*
10 mins to Emily's start.
Woo, nice spiking first control for Ali!
Alison just caught up with Louise...
I'll have to leave for work after Emily starts (must encourage local talent), and no TV link at work, but I'll check GPS and my productivity will be shot for a bit. :)
Interesting 6>7 tracks going on.
I'm writing this AM off, for sure, productivity-wise.
That was the best #6 I've seen so far.
Ali just lost her advantage @#4, now they're all clumped.
Yeah, Wyder caught up with Alison, but 6-7 is where it gets decided...
There's the Kempster smile!
And once again, the start controller is also all smiles as she leaves! Kempster spirit lives!
Also, the commentators mentioned how she's been studying with Thierry. If people hadn't noticed her before, THAT will make them pay attention...
Louise and Ali both into 6 no prob. Ali with Wyder
As is the kempster. Looked great through 3.
Same low miss as Ali @ #4!
What video feed are you watching that is showing the start/woods controls? The sportsground paid video feed only has had arena cameras.
Yeah the SVT vid has been excellent. A good mix of everything.
GPS 'hole' before #7 there ... really adds to the suspense! :)
It looks like Minna is gaining on Simone at 5.
Clem, I think its good that you found a new Novikov. I mean, the dinosaurs are retiring, so you might as well. Plus you can say:
"Hi, I'm Clem, this is my boy Novikov, and this is my other boy Novikov."
I like the spectator chute paralleling the finish chute (as a spectator :).
The SVT feed is way better! Why aren't they showing any of that on the paid feed?
Sime ran control 7 really well.
Allison in fourth so far! Great run!
We've lost Emily's signal, and not at a good place.. :(
AWESOME chute coverage for Ali!
Was that Louise at the spectator? I've lost her on the GPS track.
This womens' final is crazy! I'm telling you!
did anyone else just lose their video? the swedish one?
Yes, Louise has finished. Emily is so far in excellent position after control 8, still in the top half! And after control 12, she's just ahead of Alison. Tight race, and excellent from both of them!
Oh nooo just lost the video.
yes, I just switched to he YLE feed instead: http://areena.yle.fi/tv/1969771/#/play
Emily in 6th so far at the finish! Great run girls!!!!
She was reeling Simone back in and then got dragged to 11 before 10.
And Niggli is destroying the competition...
Yes, they'll finish in the mid to high 20's!
Good chute footage of Emily as well! Well done, producers.
Tove is taking the trail wide right en route to 7.
The door is wide open! :)
Simone was very fast on 7, running north of the line. Just over 9 mins.
Tove's 1:18 back of Simone after 7.
Tove lost ~3 mins to Simone on that 7 route.
Heh, you can hear the Kopter buzzing around.
More like 1:53 lost to Simone.
Yeah, sounds like a weed whacker.
Simone really cooked the last loop. The remaining gals are going to have to dig deep to take any of that back.
Yikes, how is Simone so fast?! 12:41 from 8 to the finish.
"This is where champions are made!"
Billstam - attacking from the low open field to the right on 12. Did many people take that route? It looks fast.
I think Simone did that too.
Looks like Tove will be as well.
Tove has taken a 30s lead over Minna!
57 second #13 did it for her
Wow, can Tove ever *run*!
Tove picked up time in the last loop, didn't she?
I almost ran a beer race with Merja at the banquet in Norway. At the old submarine base. 3-person teams, and somehow it was me, Merja and Ri (the North Korean guy - his idea). Well, we had to gather up some coin to enter. Ri had no money. I thnk I had a few crowns but not enough to cover him. We needed a third so asked Anni-Maija, but she said she doesn't drink. Merja jumped right in. The two of them had won gold in the relay earlier that day! Ri and I needed all the help we could get. But when we went to register they said we were "too late." I begged, but no joy. Funny what memories stick in your mind.
Bravo Emily on 26th place!! Ahead by 2 seconds. Lots of these tight results all over.
Alas for Minna, finishing just outside of the medals again.
Neat, kewl shot of Ali punching in the final summary ...
Well geez, that was really fun to watch.
Again, kudos to SVT for great coverage.
Yes, great fun. Will try to catch the American feed on TV tonight. They only have 8 hrs to put it together - busy, busy.
Now I have to go back to.. uh, make that to _start_ working. Relays tomorrow: at home, so full streaming capacity, woohoo! 7am eastern men, 9am eastern women.
Online results now show people one place up - Emily 25, Ali 28.
(edit) Ah, its the miscounting of ties in the live results that Ed pointed out a few days ago. There are two at 7th.
Re US feed, yeah, I'm going to try a different sports bar tonight. Tried last night, but the place I went to only had comcast cable.
My wife called around first to find out which places had USN and also about audio, etc.
Hugh (or anyone else)--can someone please tell me where I can watch this in the Philadelphia area? I feel deprived.
I have to say I was really happy with the SVT feed. The edit seemed just about right, with a good mix of everything - starters, runners in the forest, finishers, route analysis, some crowd shots, results updates. I think they showed all the starters. I never felt like asking "why aren't they showing more of X?"
On a bigscreen at a bar? Hmm ... no idea. Maybe you can get Dish installed by this evening for TNT?
Maybe Quotations or Sligo in Media? Plumstead Inn (oh the (vague, fuzzy) memories)!
Buffalo Wild Wings on Rt 1 at 322?
AMAZING to see a GPS logger (one that I have owned for 2 years?) advertised alongside Orienteering programming during PRIME TIME FRIDAY NIGHT on a big-time TV network. Wow!
And I find the FiOS ad pretty ironically placed in the above USN image, since Verizon doesn't carry USN. :)
I went to Buffalo Wild Wings on Wednesday because a) I know they have a lot of TV's so getting my own wouldn't be an issue, and b) a Google search shows that they have DirecTV. I've been there before to watch basketball games in Seattle with friends who went to Texas A&M and SLU, so I know that they have access to a lot of channels.
I did another Google search of DirecTV bars in Wichita, and the one right behind my hotel (attached to a bowling alley) came up. I guess I did get a little lucky here in that they had channel #625; reading others above suggests that DirecTV does not automatically include that channel. I was also fortunate that they allowed me to turn on the sound.
I'm driving up to Kansas City to see family this weekend, so I don't think I'll be able to watch. But, not having to work on Saturday morning means that I should be able to do the whole online viewing experience!
The beers at Quotations are even up to your standards j-man.
hughmac4: you do realise that a significant portion of ads nowadays are targeted at individual users? What you, the user, are searching for and looking at online will dictate what ads you see.
Hah, good point Andrew. :) I think I did do a search for the Holux recently, to get the latest firmware. Still ironic for the FiOS ad though.
We're looking forward to returning to McGillicuddy's Irish Pub near Burlington, VT tonight to watch the Middle Final. We can get a booth with our own remote and control the sound. It was noisy last night for the Long Final, so it was a little hard to hear, but it was a real thrill to pick up 90 percent of what they were saying. For once, I appreciated the commercials because we could look at the menus and order, talk to each other about the race, and chillout briefly. We had printed the mens and women's results which were fun to refer to, and had a copy of the men's map (I forgot to print the women's), which was a bit too reduced to read very well, but it helped to be able to refer to the overall picture.
I liked that the announcers explained a bit about the mechanics of the sport, including a mention that a competitor who we saw running away from a control was indeed running in the right direction. These subtle details are nice for us and very helpful for the uninitiated to understand what makes orienteering different from a run through the woods.
Can't wait to watch the North American women on TV tonight! Look how far we've come. Thanks, Universal Sports TV! (And all the others whose passion for technology has brought our sport to the interactive level it is today.)
Who is running the relay for the US tomorrow?
US men: Eric Bone, Boris Granovskiy, Ross Smith
US women: Alison Crocker, Samantha Saeger, Hannah Culberg
Canada men: Will Critchley, Robbie Anderson, Eric Kemp
Canada women: Emily Kemp, Louise Oram, Kerstin Burnett
Some surprises for me:
- Kyburz anchoring Merz and Hubmann
- Tove running first leg for Sweden, perhaps trying to break away from the pack?
Men's Relay video
Can't find live gps on GPSSeuranta
The WOC website isn't having any valid live results for me
Well, there goes France's chances. Thierry can't really catch up on that kind of mistake...
Merz in the lead by a few seconds, and the top of the pack is unusual - but the big guns are part of it and may be just pacing themselves to take the lead later on.
Yup, Finland second now at 3.8km, Czechs still in the top pack. Saw a shot of Eric early on the first control, about 2/3 of the way down the pack.
End of first leg: Switzerland, Norway as a pack (+8), the rest starting at +45.
Ooo, TV had a very nice closeup on Boris waiting, and Robbie next to him. Nice fodder for the US stream. :)
YLE nice shot of Eric tagging off to Boris....
Nice placement of the Team USA banner too, btw...
Yup, didn't see the changeover for Canada. Wish we had the full map, but there's plenty of "Where is X going?" moments...
Ooo, NICE shot of Valentin Novikov vaulting over the small cliff to spike the 3.8km control!
when does the women's race start?
And leg 2 ending, Ukraine in the lead?? with 15 seconds lead? Whoo, lots of surprises!
Women's starts around 9am
Yeah, Estonia had a smidgen of a chance but it's gone now. Russia-Ukraine(!)-Sweden fighting it out.
Annnnd Russia takes a lead, either Ukraine of Sweden made a mistake, the other followed... of such heartbreaks are relays made!
Thierry is taking a serious bite out of that gap... at 1.5 km he's already gained almost a minute on the leaders!!
Canadian...are you getting splits somewhere? i haven't been able to find any...
And Ukraine's first-ever Relay medal, I believe?
Thierry put France from 9th to 5th!! If it wasn't for the error in the first leg... This will be interesting to check leg speed!
Yeah, he almost gained 3 minutes on a 5 km course. Massive!
I suspect you're right about Ukraine's medal count.
Looks like from 14th to 8th for Thierry/France...
Showing Kopter shots for Eddie!!
And looking at the Wikipedia site, this seems Ukraine's first-ever medal, period. And us Canadians know how they feel. :)
And yes, there was a brief kopter shot of the mass start. Someone will be happy. :)
TV switchover, so go to the bottom of the screen and restart if you lost coverage.
So what happens to the men still out in the field?
Also, are you disqualified if you get lapped?
Tall Ali and Smiling Emily. Easy to spot. :)
Cat and Ali taking it out in front.
Ali 2nd in the pack as they get to the field! Emily about 10th!
Niall, No disqualification for get lapped. Nothing normally happens to runners still out in the field. They get to finish just like everyone else.
Switch on their GPS unit traces dammit!
Ah, good. I guess some like China just abandoned then. Japan is listed as "hlatty" at leg 2, not sure what that means...
Becks, I may be wrong, but I think only some have GPS for relay - the top 15 rated teams?
Oh, okay. That's a shame. Just have to keenly watch the TV.
It's a shame because I expect both Cat and Ali to figure in this first leg - fingers crossed!
Whooooooo! They just added Cat!
Argh, she made a mistake about three seconds later :( Hopefully not a big one though.
Looks like Cat and Tove are together after control 3!
Ali appeared briefly and then disappeared again. She was still with leaders.
and Ali 4 seconds behind!!!
Emily 11th, Ali 12th seconds behind! Woot!
Can I just say, this announcer is a d**k. "If the information is right, Cat Taylor should be there." "EVEN Canada and the USA have been here." Has he bothered to research these people at all? Maybe the teams aren't expected to perform, but these runners have had fantastic relay results over the last year, and at last WOC. Grrr.
Becks...which video stream are you watching?
Live lineup is showing that it is Emma, not Tove on Leg 1. I didn't see the visual lineup, so can NOT say for sure who started 1st for Sweden...
Loooong kopter start shot. It showed by how much Cat and Ali were in front.
GPS now showing for Emily
I'm listening to the paid stream and watching svt coverage.
China 12th?? and the camera pans away as Emily arrives!
Lucky #13 so far....keep it up Emily!!
One SVT announcer keeps calling Cat "Christine"... and there's Ali, nice shot of "stop, check, turn, see, run for spiking".
Gaaaa! Alarm didn't go off? Or I slept through it. :( I missed the entire mens race. I must be 2 full nights behind on sleep at this point.
Fortunately the backup (hungry cat) worked at 9:15 :)
Aww man. So disappointed.
Luckily the women's race is totally awesome Eddie!
me too, mens race can be watched as replay with the link above. watching mens muted and the womens right now.
And the crowd goes wild for local girl winning leg 1.. but Cat did a fantastic run!
Ah, Eddie! I was wondering where you where!
awesome Emily !
Way to go Emily!!! Fantastic!
blink blink. Was that Emily?
odd, i'm watching svt video and only have 8 finishers so far
Didn't you see the dazzling smile? :)
Doesn't appear to be Ali's day ... :(
Oh (yawn) crap. (blink blink). What year is this? I think I'm watching a WOC relay live in my living room. Maybe I'm still asleep?
That was Sam, sleepyhead.
Nice tree, SVT. Is that all you can show us?..
Eep Hollie, stick with them!
Geez. I was switching over to the big screen - everything was fuzzy. Crap crap crap :(
Does someone have a link to the live GPS?
There is no live GPS today, unless they're bringing it out for the last leg.
I haven't found a link to GPS.
Louise is still 11th at the 1.5km control!
There's a note that "live GPS is part of the TV broadcast" today - so no traditional app broadcast...
Billstam made up some time ...
is stalling now - no more video for me :(
Woah, Swiss making huge mistakes.
So it's Scandanivia then GBR at the second leg finish...
Is it my internet or their uplink? Tedious.
Hong Kong is FLYING through the chute!
Thank you Eddie, I was wondering who was that overtaking so quickly but not appearing on the results.. 1st leg finisher, but doing so in style. :)
Where is Ireland? Are the results updating? I'm confused.
Not so live results have Louise in 10th
..Denmark.. Denmark, staahhhp... :)
Doh, Denmark lost at control 1 .... good for GBR
You can check times at several controls along the way.
Louise still doing well...11th
I am a big fan of Klingenberg but today......cooooooommmmeeee oooonnnn Claire! Capitalise!
Yeah, thats what I'm looking at.
Here's my spectating setup at home this morning:
Italy juuust pulled ahead of Louise after being neck-in-neck for half the leg
Niiice, Eddie! I just have tabs on the same computer. :)
Ahh, there's Niamh. Go go Roz!!
But then Louise takes over Italy again!!
Louise finished 11th by 2 seconds! Goooo Kerstin!
Go Canada!! Fantastic racing ladies!!
Let's go Kerstin!!!
Top 16 / top half result this year??
Is there more camerawork on YLE maybe? The SVT feed is all GPS tracking of the leaders. I'd rather have cameras on the vid and my own GPS tracker on a computer so I can follow our guys.
Fooey, GBR having trouble ....
I was looking at the wrong times - leg times, not change-over.. Louise is TENTH! Fantastic! Though Lithuania is 3.5 minutes ahead, and Italy 9 seconds behind.
And they just showed leg 3's traces at control 3. Looked like a bunch of drunk people, so many mistakes...
Canadian, there's 2.5 minutes behind Kerstin/Italy, so if ... wait, no, I won't jinx it, I'll just watch. :)
GBR sperm having trouble fertilising the egg at control 2!
Tooms, I may have woken up anyone in the building still sleeping at that comment...
She can pick up Spain on the last leg here!
Um, Hannah is listed for 3rd leg...
Ali, Sam, Hannah is the listed lineup.
SWE big boom at 2 puts SUI back in the medal hunt
The race for third is going to be exciting!
GPS up now, usual place. Can't link, Java having a meltdown.
:) Ok, go Hannah!! Sorry girl!
I've been sitting here for an hour and no one has come over to make me any coffee. What's up with that?
ummm....until SWE took a left turn!
And Niggli is 3rd at 2.7km!
Can Hannah make up 3 mins on CAN? Wait, no its way more than 3 right?
Kerstin is 13th at 1.5km, both Italy and _Latvia_ overtook her...
Is my screen that far behind? I'm just seeing Niggli correcting from a 180 on her way to 4F
US was 7.5min behind of Can at changeover of 2nd
Fossil maybe. Norway already won, Finland in the shoot for 2nd ...
gonna be interesting for bronze
Wow...tight for bronze!!!
Come on Tove, sprint finish with those two would be AMAZING!
Whoa! Tove with a bead on Simone!
NOR crossed finish line just now on my screen...
Wonder if I'll finally learn how to read the results before the end of the race :)
Or even know who's running. Gah.
Yup fossil, you're miles behind.
Hannah and Kerstin on the same trail now
I'm much happier with the GPS tracking on the laptop now.
For me, the posting of the radio controls results appear about a minute before the same result is shown on the svt broadcast.
Someone tell me they didn't just end the video coverage?
Tove gave it to Simone back at control #2.
"Broadcasting is temporarily unavailable"?
They just ended both streams, ads on the paid service.
Just came back.
Nope, no visuals, just a photo montage. F**k.
Watching from a laptop using a cell phone hotspot, sitting in a camper in a state park. At least it's 3G.
Kerstin through the 2.7 now
Kerstin's tracing was... interesting.
As the Queen of CT State parks is with us this morning, can you tell us:
How nice are the toilets? :)
Should it be worrisome that neither Ireland nor Hong Kong's 2nd leg runners have punched in yet at the 2.7km control??
Whoa, Hannah and Kerstin!
.....go kerstin, wherever you are :) (gps trace is more lost than found for her)
Today there is no park, as I am now rushing to get ready to spend a day in my other job as mouse maternal "care" worker. The toilets at work are pretty grim and smell of wet rat.
can she outsprint the german?
Chenango Valley SP in NY. Toilets are about average for NY parks. Seen better, definitely seen worse. Video is above average. Rarely seen better. Frequently seen worse.
The earlier races this week had much less video compression artifacts, but I'm not sure if that's due to problems with today's broadcasts or because maybe my bandwidth isn't sufficient to allow time for full decompression. It was good enough to follow the races but not good enough to make out faces or frequently smaller text such as time back from leader.
whoa, US vs germany here, a second apart!
it's land of the dead GPS units...
Are you watching Niall or just results/GPS?
And Germany sprints way ahead of Hannah... (17 secs)
Just results and GPS, the SVT video was only 2 hours long
Would have been fun cheering Hannah with Germany just ahead in the chute.
I think the vid quality was the same as it has been (very good on SVT), so probably just your bandwidth today fossil.
Kerstin is in, 20th, 2:13 after Hannah.
Hey, this thread reached #1 all-time longest on Attackpoint this morning.
So then, like, if I type this, I'm adding to the record?
What I think is a hoot about this thread being all time longest is that it is the one titled USA WOC Thread, and not the other general WOC thread.
yeah, that's what i was assuming, so didn't stress about it. at least they're using the compression format that shows all blocks fuzzy at first and then fills in details later if time permits, rather than the older ones that just left holes or unupdated blocks from previous frames.
Did Kerstin's gps just die? Or is she standing still?
I'm watching the vid replay now and catching up. Very cool to see Cat Taylor up front through those first several intermediates.
Also nice seeing her and Ali at the front of the start pack heading into the woods.
When a thread gets longer that that crazy logo one, I get excited.
Oh. I see you all reported her at the finish while I was typing. My gps screen still shows her standing still near #7. At one point her dot got run over by CHN.
Kerstin's gps died since she's finished. The race, I mean.
Anything but that "you know you are a geek" thread...
Hong Kong and Ireland are not throwing in the towel!
Yeah, they're keeping after it.
I'm hearing some vuvuzela action on the audio. Anybody know if Ross is the only one with a horn there?
Good for them. Keep at it girls! At least they have someone to compete with still.
I think its time I made some coffee. So, so very disappointed to have overslept and missed the entire men's race and the women's start. Even stayed up late updating software so the vid would work at home. Really sorry guys!
Maybe Ireland can catch Japan?
Don't think so, unless Japan makes a big error. ...like 15% of the runners today. ahem.
Fun fact: I played in the pit orchestra for a Dryden High School production of Oliver! about... hmm, maybe 13 years ago. In the trumpet section with me was... Ross Smith.
Japan just finally found #7 a few minutes ago, after wandering around a bit. I think Japan's got this now.
Looks like HKG is closing the gap on IRL though!
Really missed you this morning, Eddie!
Oh man, Japan with a mistake to #8, but IRL and HKG aren't gaining!
Japan's got it, Hong Kong trending well, Ireland regroups and nails it!
...we're either finding excitement wheverer we can, or we really sympathise with these three because that's how we'd be doing in their place? :)
Ha, just saw the wave being done in the arena on the replay :)
And Japan is done! I'm not sure the intermediary controls are being posted online anymore though.
Ireland doesn't have a split at 2.7km, but her track goes through there.
Would they have pulled the radio out already?!
Japan didn't have a split at 3.7 or 3.9, and Spain didn't have a split at 3.9, so they may have stopped them a while ago.
If I'm reading this right (and I'm probably not :), IRL effectively has 10 mins on HKG at the mass-start of leg 3, so if susan can finish closer than that they'll be ahead.
Maybe they needed the radio controls for the banquet? I hope the finish line is still there!
Start the clock. I think she's got it no prob.
eddie, so I wasn't mistaken in seeing a leg 3 start for ireland (I guess HK's gps was not working) - the 7:30 minutes advance would be too much for HK to overtake, yeah. We'll know in a minute or three as Ireland is on the last two controls.
She's in! With a couple mins to spare over HKG.
Funny, I only have one power supply here with me, so I'm having to swap it between the two laptops every 20 mins or so. Driving the big screen over the DVI is really eating the power. Its kindof like sharing a rebreather in a diving rescue :)
My cell phone battery has dropped from 100% to 40% over the last 5.5 hours, despite being plugged into the laptop to keep it charging. And the laptop is plugged in to AC power and has remained fully charged. Time to logoff and go do camping stuff with live people.
If those woods are anything like the ones from the WOC2013 maps on Catching Features, I can understand the relay progress... and having seen the video, I think they're even thicker in parts!
fossil, recent laptops usually have one USB port with a higher power rating for charging. Check your hardware docs for info. More details:
Just saw a replay of the Koptercam footage from the women's start. Yeeeeahhh!!!
I'm hearing some vuvuzela action on the audio. Anybody know if Ross is the only one with a horn there?
Pretty sure we had the only vuvuzela, though before Ross came in it was mostly me doing the tooting, with some solos by Brendan and Alli. :-)
Thanks to everyone who has been following along and cheering from home! The team's been busy and focused this week, but I can assure you that they all appreciate it and love the fact that people are watching online and in sports bars (!).
The team is taking some well-deserved celebration time at the banquet now, and tomorrow we'll all spread back out over the world, ready to start training on Monday for WOC 2014.
My family had a great time at Waffles and WOC 2013 Relays
yesterday at our house. It was first rate sports TV!
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