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Discussion: Entering PACE in Training Log entries

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#  Posted 2007-06-30 21:39:02
cledlie: Help ! Something seems to have gone wrong with training log entries when I enter the pace of training. I used to enter a pace eg 800 or was it 8.00 and it would calculate the distance from my time. Am I doing something wrong or has the form broken?

#  Posted 2007-07-01 05:55:44
ken: this was broken, but should be working again now.

#  Posted 2007-07-04 00:22:58
cledlie: Thanks - it's working fine again.

#  Posted 2007-10-01 12:15:57
jotaigna: On that note i have a question. When entering a training session and providing the distance, mighty ap will provide a pace calculation which is very simple p=d/t (pace is distance over time). When also inputing climb, it will provide a second calculation, in italics. Initially i though it would just use pithagoras and calculate the extended distance based on a climb, but... if you put 10k distance in 30 min with 200m climb:
Pace=3min/k
Alt Pace=2.44min/k.
But sqrt(10000^2+300^2)=10004.5 which if you use p=d/t will give you a pace of 2:59.92, in other words, bugger all difference.

What else is involved in the calculation that has such a generous pace once you involve climb?

#  Posted 2007-10-01 13:46:49
bshields: The fact that it's harder to run 200m uphill than to add on 4.5 m to your 10k. I think 5*climb is added to the flat distance? So 10k with 200m climb would be 11k.

#  Posted 2007-10-01 13:54:00
distracted: I think it's based on a simple calculation that 10m climb = 50m on the flat, which is a rough rule of thumb when considering climb. It can get far more complex - there are several 'rules' when considering time estimation of a certain route, which add a certain distance on dependent on gradient up (and down) etc

#  Posted 2007-10-01 17:23:27
jotaigna: so
p=d/t
AltP=(d+5c)/t
That result comes pretty close 30/11=2:43.6, which is rounded up to 2:44.

Thats pretty close, thanks. i'll leave the "climb weighing factor" reasoning to the sport physiologists out there.

#  Posted 2007-10-02 01:58:36
ebuckley: The factor used to be 10. This thread (and possibly several other sources) got it changed to 5.

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