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Monday Jul 25, 2011 #
Note
Blither
Hard(est?) things to do here:
1. get around a course w/o a miss
2. have a time that stands its ground over the course of the day
Same arena for days 1&2; ditto for days 3&4. The work involved in setting up one's S/F and all related is orders of magnitude more than we've likely ever done in the US than WOC '93. Day 5 is right at the O village - probably because pragmatism/convenience trumps effort/expense req'd to do otherwise.
Was a minute of silence all over Scandanavia and Iceland today at exactly noon today for the Norwegian tragedy. So, so silently, eeriely strange (thought of snowflakes falling w/o wind)...just footfalls and breathing if one was near chutes.
On confusion, was reading the program on the bus (why not? minimizes confusion). Thought to myself - dates should be on first page which they were but stage 5 was listed as being on 7/30, the day I fly to Scotland. As the blurry vision cleared, I noted it was their print mistake - stage 5
being on the 29th....
My start area encompasses D55-D90 & M65-90. Interesting to look around & note faces/body habitus, imagine prior experience.
Was about dead last on chute time yesterday - reminded myself it wasn't a 5k and I wasn't to cause trouble.
Saw a USA jersey on a runner quite a bit ahead on the trail on the way to start - to far to catch or yell to. Dark, short hair, stocky....
Would now describe a bike as indispensable. Have to pay attention when parking it - at bus stop parking, it's a harder pkng for (re)location than Manchester airport on a dark winter night when one failed to note the space in the first place - 1000 bikes?
Was paying 19kr for a chocolate-covered ice cream pop. The O village market sold me 0.5L of vanilla bean for 15kr - bad habits can be hard to escape. Little hope - in Scotland they have Scotch.
Hard(est?) things to do here:
1. get around a course w/o a miss
2. have a time that stands its ground over the course of the day
Same arena for days 1&2; ditto for days 3&4. The work involved in setting up one's S/F and all related is orders of magnitude more than we've likely ever done in the US than WOC '93. Day 5 is right at the O village - probably because pragmatism/convenience trumps effort/expense req'd to do otherwise.
Was a minute of silence all over Scandanavia and Iceland today at exactly noon today for the Norwegian tragedy. So, so silently, eeriely strange (thought of snowflakes falling w/o wind)...just footfalls and breathing if one was near chutes.
On confusion, was reading the program on the bus (why not? minimizes confusion). Thought to myself - dates should be on first page which they were but stage 5 was listed as being on 7/30, the day I fly to Scotland. As the blurry vision cleared, I noted it was their print mistake - stage 5
being on the 29th....
My start area encompasses D55-D90 & M65-90. Interesting to look around & note faces/body habitus, imagine prior experience.
Was about dead last on chute time yesterday - reminded myself it wasn't a 5k and I wasn't to cause trouble.
Saw a USA jersey on a runner quite a bit ahead on the trail on the way to start - to far to catch or yell to. Dark, short hair, stocky....
Would now describe a bike as indispensable. Have to pay attention when parking it - at bus stop parking, it's a harder pkng for (re)location than Manchester airport on a dark winter night when one failed to note the space in the first place - 1000 bikes?
Was paying 19kr for a chocolate-covered ice cream pop. The O village market sold me 0.5L of vanilla bean for 15kr - bad habits can be hard to escape. Little hope - in Scotland they have Scotch.
10 AM
Orienteering race 47:29 5.42 km (8:45 / km) +48m 8:23 / km
Day 2 Glossbo. Started gray & showery but precipitation never became a problem. This was in the process of being a very good run until #7 - which for all the world looked like a yellow control. Earlier points had been of appropriate difficulty & I’d hit them all. No trips/falls/wrenches. Course did not favor running until the end - found I could move satisfactorily fast w/o apparent exacerbation of anything. Just pop more Alleve & continue to sit on my SAS pillow at every opportunity.
QR.
Not right at 7 - much more circling - almost all the way to both intersections. Not sure of significance of red & blue dots and blue target, latter 2 in particular. Most of this was moved to known points or track but by time 7 came the track was foreshortened & I was tired of the process!
1. st to jct, aim off a little, hit path, knew to turn right, jct there, up path a bit to bldrs, over spur - noted yellow patch, over knoll to cement location, then vague reent, then dep - could see runner punching.
2. hard - straight, saw bldr on spur halfway - then very careful -fairly grn, saw cluster of bldrs & voila - another runner there.
3. st to SVT but lg rough open area where map shows only a patch. Tad confusing - could see bldr at edge of SVT & other runners entering. Started to drift to R - had to remember to focus, not follow. Could see 3 rock faces ahead & forest opening in general. Went along top & then could see knolls.
4. Just lv big cliff to L but got in close & some confusion - still left what i thot was big cliff but it went round the corner to W.... Looked at map, noted this other cliff to N - OK so far - thot CP was a knoll which I could not see - did see a bldr w/ runner punching - ck’d # - it was mine. Lesson: know what you’re looking for....
5. Down the busy, rocky slope - kept in obvious open area til end then into green - had considered marsh as ck pt but decided it would not help - so along side of hill - then the mess of of bldrs - very hard to tell what was what - but knoll was on far side - keep going, voila!
6. St rhumb to intersection but logging made veg reading all but undoable for me. Finally lg rough open area, lots of runners converging, was the (much enlarged/not as mapped) rough open w/ path leading away to major SVT; then right to jct - then W to veg pt. & NW along distinct line (hi pines vs low, new pine growth). Fm west most-corner, using care, went st. Bldr was 1.2m - went the distance - did not see anything - trees were moderately close, maybe 1.6m high. Looked carefully - saw nondescript bldr to my left - could it “hide” a CP. Went there, it was.
7. Trivial looking! Yellow! Big path to jct which was tad over-grown but did have a marker there. Was going to lv fm there - patch of rough open did not exist to my eye - whole area was new growth pine - all less then 2m hi. Finally left path on compass - came to road, no cp, no suggestions from anywhere/anyone/anything. Went R first I think, almost all way to jct - ok, go back, hop in “woods”, run parallel to SVT - nothing but close-together (green) pines making for 15mish vis. Out & toward other jct, turn round, try again. Finally came upon it - luck. Was not vis fm road as I had expected based on yesterday’s experience. I think it was nearly 50m fm road, not 30m. Sigh, best laid plans.
8. Long boring RR to jct by 8 - did not trust woods! Too bad because such runs are so boring. Not sure which was faster. Will take a look at splits. When I realized 8 was up, then down, it was ok
9.Pit on saddle side between 2 knolls - but got there, no pit. Another runner showed up, stood around, went higher - I followed - there it was. Seemed a tad too high.
Must have lost 2.5' total - maybe even 2.5 on the "yellow" #7. Splits will be interesting to note.
QR.
Not right at 7 - much more circling - almost all the way to both intersections. Not sure of significance of red & blue dots and blue target, latter 2 in particular. Most of this was moved to known points or track but by time 7 came the track was foreshortened & I was tired of the process!
1. st to jct, aim off a little, hit path, knew to turn right, jct there, up path a bit to bldrs, over spur - noted yellow patch, over knoll to cement location, then vague reent, then dep - could see runner punching.
2. hard - straight, saw bldr on spur halfway - then very careful -fairly grn, saw cluster of bldrs & voila - another runner there.
3. st to SVT but lg rough open area where map shows only a patch. Tad confusing - could see bldr at edge of SVT & other runners entering. Started to drift to R - had to remember to focus, not follow. Could see 3 rock faces ahead & forest opening in general. Went along top & then could see knolls.
4. Just lv big cliff to L but got in close & some confusion - still left what i thot was big cliff but it went round the corner to W.... Looked at map, noted this other cliff to N - OK so far - thot CP was a knoll which I could not see - did see a bldr w/ runner punching - ck’d # - it was mine. Lesson: know what you’re looking for....
5. Down the busy, rocky slope - kept in obvious open area til end then into green - had considered marsh as ck pt but decided it would not help - so along side of hill - then the mess of of bldrs - very hard to tell what was what - but knoll was on far side - keep going, voila!
6. St rhumb to intersection but logging made veg reading all but undoable for me. Finally lg rough open area, lots of runners converging, was the (much enlarged/not as mapped) rough open w/ path leading away to major SVT; then right to jct - then W to veg pt. & NW along distinct line (hi pines vs low, new pine growth). Fm west most-corner, using care, went st. Bldr was 1.2m - went the distance - did not see anything - trees were moderately close, maybe 1.6m high. Looked carefully - saw nondescript bldr to my left - could it “hide” a CP. Went there, it was.
7. Trivial looking! Yellow! Big path to jct which was tad over-grown but did have a marker there. Was going to lv fm there - patch of rough open did not exist to my eye - whole area was new growth pine - all less then 2m hi. Finally left path on compass - came to road, no cp, no suggestions from anywhere/anyone/anything. Went R first I think, almost all way to jct - ok, go back, hop in “woods”, run parallel to SVT - nothing but close-together (green) pines making for 15mish vis. Out & toward other jct, turn round, try again. Finally came upon it - luck. Was not vis fm road as I had expected based on yesterday’s experience. I think it was nearly 50m fm road, not 30m. Sigh, best laid plans.
8. Long boring RR to jct by 8 - did not trust woods! Too bad because such runs are so boring. Not sure which was faster. Will take a look at splits. When I realized 8 was up, then down, it was ok
9.Pit on saddle side between 2 knolls - but got there, no pit. Another runner showed up, stood around, went higher - I followed - there it was. Seemed a tad too high.
Must have lost 2.5' total - maybe even 2.5 on the "yellow" #7. Splits will be interesting to note.
Sunday Jul 24, 2011 #
9 AM
Orienteering race 42:23 [2] 5.1 km (8:18 / km) +36m 8:01 / km
Goals: to finish all Europe days w/o any injury exacerbation, w/o undue error, w/o MP
Day 1 map named Glossbo, cloudy at start, spitting showers, a few splashes of sun. Want to say good run but looking at course later, easy to see it’s easy. Some O to 3 & 4, 7 & 8. Was accurate enough to all of them, no mistake time (well, except at end running to lady/computer in tent and not punching at end of chute). Am suffering from a confusion theme in spite of having been to large meets before. Asking older people (if that’s all that’s around) might result in only slightly better than 50% satisfaction re what's what. 6 & 7 hard to read right to control but was direct w/ appropriate sense of distance. On several occasions, spotted a control I was able to locate on map. Depressions as in #1 were maybe 18” deep yet visible enough. No trips/wrenchs/falls. Just nipped 10'/k. Under 9'/k, 35-6' with everything working, perhaps. Finished providing the various body parts with nothing to complain about. Decent start in that tomorrow’s start is something to look forward to!
1- straight, seeing control at end of long depression, then 2 paths - changed mind re jct as I could see clearing & it was all so very open
2 - path, thickish in spite of white
3 - road, intended to lv at depression but jct came up quickly
4 - st, came upon/looked for end of ride
5 - thickish again
6 - expected contour change to be more visible
7 - st, did not read everything but was st, confident enough & there was a backup
8 - thought for awhile about how to blow this one - left of rhumb to path curve but opted st - thought the control i saw was in the distinct clearing but apparently not. Could see the land rising & a marker in a pit & then the very lg bldr
9/10 easy
QR shows additional confusion on way to #8...QR fits
Confusions:
epunch clear but no check because the next “check” was the start punch, unbeknownst to me.
find the start - good thing I had nearly 30’ for the one k walk/jog to start. 8 starts (maybe 4 areas) identified by commercial names (w/ same name on bib). I thought mine was “Moderna” after looking. "Moderna" was one of three at the first start complex. Went there, noted H65M but gave M no thought. After a few minutes, I noted the runners were studying their maps before starting! Hmm. Asked one of the staff who said something I did not get but pointed to where my “Sveaskog” start was (had passed it). Started away, came back, indicating the H65 but then the M (“motion”) took on significance & of course the Sveaskog on the bib was not there by accident. Had confusion w/ the 2’ call-up which began at the time on the bib but no problem. Had trouble w/ where the start triangle was but that was easy to to deal with, too. Had trouble with where the start punch was - just after map pick-up point or at the start point/control some 100m away itself? No - it was back at the first point of call-up where a helper checked my epunch # with her list and then indicated to punch “check” or equivalent - that was my start....
There were 8 lanes at finish, finish under Sveaskog which I did ok - don’t recall runner-specific chutes recently. And, since confusion was such a successfully re-occurring theme, why not pass the final punch, go directly to the “get splits” so the finish person could point out that tidy bit of stupidity...I needed to go back 40’ or so, punch & return, maybe 25” lost.
None of these questions will arise tomorrow but there might be others! One bene of being part of a group (or even with, say 2, is that info might be “located” twice as fast - with 4, maybe 4x fast. At some point, though, the info flow would cease and even reverse. Drew the route on map to compare w/ QR where it can be seen.
There is WiFi tho not mentioned in the program. Finding a battery charging solution takes some consideration. There are several outlets in front of mirrors in the camping area - but only 2 nearby. Large distances from tent to anywhere - so much so that I rented a bike.
No end to cute kids
Power in the field
Day 1 map named Glossbo, cloudy at start, spitting showers, a few splashes of sun. Want to say good run but looking at course later, easy to see it’s easy. Some O to 3 & 4, 7 & 8. Was accurate enough to all of them, no mistake time (well, except at end running to lady/computer in tent and not punching at end of chute). Am suffering from a confusion theme in spite of having been to large meets before. Asking older people (if that’s all that’s around) might result in only slightly better than 50% satisfaction re what's what. 6 & 7 hard to read right to control but was direct w/ appropriate sense of distance. On several occasions, spotted a control I was able to locate on map. Depressions as in #1 were maybe 18” deep yet visible enough. No trips/wrenchs/falls. Just nipped 10'/k. Under 9'/k, 35-6' with everything working, perhaps. Finished providing the various body parts with nothing to complain about. Decent start in that tomorrow’s start is something to look forward to!
1- straight, seeing control at end of long depression, then 2 paths - changed mind re jct as I could see clearing & it was all so very open
2 - path, thickish in spite of white
3 - road, intended to lv at depression but jct came up quickly
4 - st, came upon/looked for end of ride
5 - thickish again
6 - expected contour change to be more visible
7 - st, did not read everything but was st, confident enough & there was a backup
8 - thought for awhile about how to blow this one - left of rhumb to path curve but opted st - thought the control i saw was in the distinct clearing but apparently not. Could see the land rising & a marker in a pit & then the very lg bldr
9/10 easy
QR shows additional confusion on way to #8...QR fits
Confusions:
epunch clear but no check because the next “check” was the start punch, unbeknownst to me.
find the start - good thing I had nearly 30’ for the one k walk/jog to start. 8 starts (maybe 4 areas) identified by commercial names (w/ same name on bib). I thought mine was “Moderna” after looking. "Moderna" was one of three at the first start complex. Went there, noted H65M but gave M no thought. After a few minutes, I noted the runners were studying their maps before starting! Hmm. Asked one of the staff who said something I did not get but pointed to where my “Sveaskog” start was (had passed it). Started away, came back, indicating the H65 but then the M (“motion”) took on significance & of course the Sveaskog on the bib was not there by accident. Had confusion w/ the 2’ call-up which began at the time on the bib but no problem. Had trouble w/ where the start triangle was but that was easy to to deal with, too. Had trouble with where the start punch was - just after map pick-up point or at the start point/control some 100m away itself? No - it was back at the first point of call-up where a helper checked my epunch # with her list and then indicated to punch “check” or equivalent - that was my start....
There were 8 lanes at finish, finish under Sveaskog which I did ok - don’t recall runner-specific chutes recently. And, since confusion was such a successfully re-occurring theme, why not pass the final punch, go directly to the “get splits” so the finish person could point out that tidy bit of stupidity...I needed to go back 40’ or so, punch & return, maybe 25” lost.
None of these questions will arise tomorrow but there might be others! One bene of being part of a group (or even with, say 2, is that info might be “located” twice as fast - with 4, maybe 4x fast. At some point, though, the info flow would cease and even reverse. Drew the route on map to compare w/ QR where it can be seen.
There is WiFi tho not mentioned in the program. Finding a battery charging solution takes some consideration. There are several outlets in front of mirrors in the camping area - but only 2 nearby. Large distances from tent to anywhere - so much so that I rented a bike.
No end to cute kids
Power in the field
Saturday Jul 23, 2011 #
Event: Swedish O-Ringen
Note
Arrived*, an accomplishment! Trials of credit card online etc. Fortunately Central Station was close by where a real person sold me a train ticket. Set up tent next to 'native' English-speaking neighbors, a father & son from Dunedin, NZ (south island) - muddy "streets" but dry enough grass. And about 200m from day 5 finish. I'm fairly certain it is the smallest sleeping quarters at all the O-Ringen (photo contest?). Noted at least Neil Dobbs' name as well as one or two others from HVO (?) but no more info. No training aspired to - only aspiration might be an ice cream on a walk about.
*interesting to finally arrive at a place seen from the air by sat photo, read about and finally, voila! - a welcoming sign to the O-Ringen, 30% or so around the world.
*interesting to finally arrive at a place seen from the air by sat photo, read about and finally, voila! - a welcoming sign to the O-Ringen, 30% or so around the world.
Friday Jul 22, 2011 #
1 AM
Road/trail 1:02:19 4.34 mi (14:21 / mi) +71m 13:40 / mi
shoes: Brooks Defyance
AM wander to bus station to look into Sandhamm visit then in search of tonight's hostel which proved a parallel error from insufficient attention late at night, jet lag drag still etc. Am thinking ambiance and less motion would be better while here. Has, in past, been the next look-see and then the puzzled been-there-done that. Perhaps that reduces to living in one's mind....
5 PM
Note
(with time to kill)
PM sitting on bow of GUSTAF, an old steel vessel that serves as hostel, bar & restaurant. How the activity increases with the lengthening of the day - just like the air temp! Now out of pedestrians' way, sitting in the shade with a breeze off the water. Wandered narrow, shaded cobbled and brick streets of Old Town most of the day. Visited museum of Tre Kronor (three crowns/royalty seal) which depicted the history of the Stockholm Royal Palace which is to say earliest Stockholm thru the palace's accidental burning in 1657. So interesting to see the depiction of tree-covered, rocky islets of 1000-1020AD evolve into busy havens of commerce, architecture, art, politics, intrigue etc.
Nooks, crannies, paths, aeries everywhere. Whiled away a few hours by a shaded fountain in Old Town absorbed in O'Bama's "Dreams from my Father". Show me a Republican of recent/present ilk who can write of such varied and significant life experience. I recall that when Bush was elected he had never been further afield than Mexico - little more than a rich boy with a silver foot in his mouth. Across from my fountain seat was a nice sidewalk cafe with "Cheeseburger" on the menu for 195kr at about 62kr/$10US. Such pricing promotes weight loss! Health care benes currently include virtually no ice cream or alcohol. Am sitting on a SAS air disposable pillow anytime the surface is hard as it softens the ITI experience.
The other sign of the times is the groin aching that occurs if standing/walking for more than 40' - spent a whole bunch of time with right hand in Bermuda shorts pocket playing truss. That ends 8/23. Contemplated one's being flexible with its degree of insecurity vs. the inflexibilty but peace of mind (?) with plans made well-before. Most egregious instance I recall was when Beth and I arrived at Paddington station in London in January, '03 tired from the night's flight and not a clue where we were going to spend the night. And it worked out just fine. Time for a cold beer - a sign of the time of day. The two Swedish gals drinking/smoking at the nearby table are having too much - love the vocalizations, air sucking/clucking, variations on O etc.
Old Town quarters (Gamla Stan)
Whiling away the hours
Spic and span
Hostel Gustaf
(just missed the photo:-)
View in a window
Royal Palace vignette
PM sitting on bow of GUSTAF, an old steel vessel that serves as hostel, bar & restaurant. How the activity increases with the lengthening of the day - just like the air temp! Now out of pedestrians' way, sitting in the shade with a breeze off the water. Wandered narrow, shaded cobbled and brick streets of Old Town most of the day. Visited museum of Tre Kronor (three crowns/royalty seal) which depicted the history of the Stockholm Royal Palace which is to say earliest Stockholm thru the palace's accidental burning in 1657. So interesting to see the depiction of tree-covered, rocky islets of 1000-1020AD evolve into busy havens of commerce, architecture, art, politics, intrigue etc.
Nooks, crannies, paths, aeries everywhere. Whiled away a few hours by a shaded fountain in Old Town absorbed in O'Bama's "Dreams from my Father". Show me a Republican of recent/present ilk who can write of such varied and significant life experience. I recall that when Bush was elected he had never been further afield than Mexico - little more than a rich boy with a silver foot in his mouth. Across from my fountain seat was a nice sidewalk cafe with "Cheeseburger" on the menu for 195kr at about 62kr/$10US. Such pricing promotes weight loss! Health care benes currently include virtually no ice cream or alcohol. Am sitting on a SAS air disposable pillow anytime the surface is hard as it softens the ITI experience.
The other sign of the times is the groin aching that occurs if standing/walking for more than 40' - spent a whole bunch of time with right hand in Bermuda shorts pocket playing truss. That ends 8/23. Contemplated one's being flexible with its degree of insecurity vs. the inflexibilty but peace of mind (?) with plans made well-before. Most egregious instance I recall was when Beth and I arrived at Paddington station in London in January, '03 tired from the night's flight and not a clue where we were going to spend the night. And it worked out just fine. Time for a cold beer - a sign of the time of day. The two Swedish gals drinking/smoking at the nearby table are having too much - love the vocalizations, air sucking/clucking, variations on O etc.
Old Town quarters (Gamla Stan)
Whiling away the hours
Spic and span
Hostel Gustaf
(just missed the photo:-)
View in a window
Royal Palace vignette
Thursday Jul 21, 2011 #
5 PM
Road running 37:50 [2] 3.13 mi (12:05 / mi) +105m 10:57 / mi
PM jog along waterfront, ended up at a height with views and wooden platform for stretching. So many people, so interesting. Concord is a nano town by comparison. Don't even visit Boston much these days. Abundant bike and pedestrian paths. Excellent "girl" watching! Also watching (every visit) locals at Scandanavian sidewalk cafes buy in abundance what seems prohibitively expensive. Felt very good to air out the psyche, sweep away a few cobwebs. FR not recognized - don't think I have used on this laptop - installed the Garmin plug in ok but still won't recognize. Now an undercurrent of confusion with Mac & Windows platforms & note re 32 vs 64 bit color & what roll that might play. Finally fixed (for now?) w/ don't-take-no-for-an-answer fiddling and persistence.
Mundane view of an interesting harbor/waterfront
Stockholm arrival with the usual case of red-eyed malaise. Got to hostel in Gamla Stan about 0915 thinking how nice a nap would be to find that it would have to wait til after 2p. Went to Vasa museum for z's as well as a most interesting exhibit.
Vasa was on the bottom of Stockholm harbor for 333 years, from 1628 to 1961.
Mundane view of an interesting harbor/waterfront
Stockholm arrival with the usual case of red-eyed malaise. Got to hostel in Gamla Stan about 0915 thinking how nice a nap would be to find that it would have to wait til after 2p. Went to Vasa museum for z's as well as a most interesting exhibit.
Vasa was on the bottom of Stockholm harbor for 333 years, from 1628 to 1961.
Wednesday Jul 20, 2011 #
Walking 18:00 [1] 0.7 mi (25:42 / mi)
AM DP with Beth as well - to slough before it was hot.
Tuesday Jul 19, 2011 #
Road running 17:00 [2] 1.3 mi (13:05 / mi)
shoes: New Balance 1011
To & from Rollins park at noon - hot in sun, moving toward 100F by end of week per meteorology. Did some exercises & managed to lose my ID swipe/key card - had to borrow a car to drive back & find - sooner the better, found w/in 45" of arriving at where I thought it should be.
stretching 15:00 [1]
Walking 25:00 [1] 1.0 mi (25:00 / mi)
DP with sister Beth along - Woodhill-Hooksett to first junction and back. Z&M were most pesty (eg, upstairs in bedroom, paws on bed, panting/pawing) as I was finishing up a post-work speed nap.
Note
A Facebook email from Tom Hollowell, Jr, re a young Swede coming to NH next year, interested in local O. He'll be at the O-Ringen, someone to look up!
Not sure who from North America is going to be there - don't know of anyone, haven't looked after an old AP inquiry came up with no one. A number of conflicting/overlapping/too spaced out large European meets this summer. Could be lost in a sea of humanity. Bought a Swedish guide at Gibson's today, mostly for Stockholm as well as "The Girl who Played with Fire". Summer reading and time for it! What fun to contemplate.
Not sure who from North America is going to be there - don't know of anyone, haven't looked after an old AP inquiry came up with no one. A number of conflicting/overlapping/too spaced out large European meets this summer. Could be lost in a sea of humanity. Bought a Swedish guide at Gibson's today, mostly for Stockholm as well as "The Girl who Played with Fire". Summer reading and time for it! What fun to contemplate.