Discussion: WOC 2011

Wow this looks tough....

http://twitpic.com/2ir3pf

holy Mother of God!

At least it's downhill...

Piece of cake!

Yeah, and you'll eat it, too.

Heck. That looks tricky.

Looks just like some of the swiss maps I picked up last year at SOW except the maps I have show it all as rough open (alpine meadow), not white woods.

Wowzer, that does look tough!

Time for some Harriman training.

Yeah Harriman looks like a good training option. When Gueorgiou was in North America last year he ran the 2006 NAOC courses and said that the Rocky Ridge fine detail and rocky ground was a good training preparation for WOC 2011. He mentioned Rocky Ridge was the same kind of orienteering feeling as France with the exception that France would be on the side of large hills. Looking at this map link though I'd say Harriman (once again) is the best bet to prep for WOC next year.

Glad to see your interest in french alps terrains ;)
We have some crazy maps here and I can tell you it's a kind of orienteering paradise (I live 1 hour from WOC terrain).
You can check on my DOMA : http://ben5907.free.fr/routes/show_map.php?user=ma...
The map you've seen in Tero's twitpic will be used in the TC in early October. And the World Cup in Annecy might be hell too :)

Before I saw that map, I was afraid that the WOC 2011 terrain would be somewhat bland. (The maps on the WOC 2011 site didn't get me excited.)

Now I know that it is legit.

Maxx, I see that there is a light grey 'screen' symbol on the maps. Is this a limestone-pavement? The reason I ask is that my club used a similar non ISOM symbol to map rock on our terrain that Tero like very much. The reason the ISOM symbol of dots for rock doesn't work is because the shapes of these rock pavements is (in places) very distinct. I recall reading on Olles Facebook page a few months ago that IOF might be revisiting this symbol.

Steeper but it looks a bit like the Cascade North area in southern Queensland. Advantage: Aussies

Don't you guys think the use of form lines is excessive?
That's what makes the map hard on the eye.

@ hammer : this symbol only exists in the Arith map right ? (Tero's one).

It is because the mapmaker is finnish...so they did it like at home. But in the other terrain (Corrençon), there is no such symbol. The rock pavements are marked with small dots, even if it might be hard to see on the screen, you see it correctly on the map.

Form lines make it a mess. Very excessive - 2.5 m contour intervals! For the side of a mountain. crazy.

think those formlines are extra. check out Pawtuckaway map with the 5 stacked formlines! ;-)

Doesn't make it acceptable.

It might be hard to see that on the screen but really not on the map while orienteering.
At least every small hill is shown on the map...

This is nothing compare to other french maps where EVERYTHING is drawn.

Its a little like home country curators in test cricket who prepare the wicket to suit the strengths of the home side bowlers. How do you choose terrain to give the French the best chance at beating the Swiss in a WOC long? Answer... super technical terrain with an all downhill course. Brilliant! ;-}

As far as I know, this is absolutely not the kind of terrain for the WOC long. It will be used for middle distances in october's TC.
But of course, WOC terrain this year was made so norwegian runners can be the best, and there is a possibility that the next 3 WOC would be the same (France / Switzerland / Finland, don't believe an Italian runner will win in 2014 but we never know...)

So what sort of terrain would suit an Italian at home.. (warning. attempted thread hijacking. expect replies full of amusing cliches).

What, like some comment about contours that look like spaghetti?

Isn't it in 2014 that the new IOF rules have to be adopted for WOC ?...So they can create a totally new event ;)

All relay teams must be mixed sex and contain at least one Italian? Orienteering experience not particularly important. You can only win the WOC Classic if you finish the course singing all the correct words to "You & Me" by Nicola Manfredi? (I might finally be in with a chance on this one).

Vespas. There have to be scooters in there somewhere.

don't believe an Italian runner will win in 2014 but we never know

At 39, Mamleev won't be particularly old. Nobody older than 37 (?) won so far, but there's been a silver for a 42-year-old.

Hey, the Italians put on JWOC 2009 and did an absolutely fantastic job. They made the event special with banners, posters, signs, etc. everywhere. I know that has nothing to do with the orienteering but----based on what I saw at JWOC, the Italians really know how to put on an athletic event and make it special for the competitiors and spectators.

Looks like Surebridge.

I have massively enjoyed every race I have run in Italy, and found the organisation excellent and fun too. Doesn't stop me getting involved in a bit of tongue in cheek inter nations banter though!

Ha ha. After what we saw at WOC10, where it first looked like this:
http://www.arua.ch/insp/137.html

We can expect WOC11 to be something like that.
http://ben5907.free.fr/routes/show_map.php?user=ma...

:-)

Haha--yes!

@ carlch: thanks a lot Carl ! (I has been the italian voice at JWOC with Lucie and Timo). I have some names for an italian medal in 2014, but they also read AttackPoint so I don't want to put more pressure on our best young runners :-)

Ha ha. After what we saw at WOC10, where it first looked like this:
http://www.arua.ch/insp/137.html

We can expect WOC11 to be something like that.
http://ben5907.free.fr/routes/show_map.php?user=ma...

So true--hilarious!

Hum.... Not really ;)

That shitty map was on a totally other part of France ;)

But of course forest here is much more green than in Norway...