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Discussion: Logging intentions

in: Orienteering; The Website

Nov 5, 2013 7:17 PM # 
barb:
What would be the best way to log a training plan for the coming week? I like the way events show up on my log. I'd like to be able to see my training intentions show up that way too. I want to be able to indicate that my plan is to run for 40 minutes on Thursday, and do intervals on Friday, and do a particular orienteering exercise on Saturday. I'd like to be able to look ahead at the week to come to see what my plan is, and also share that with people so they can ask how it went, or why I didn't do it, or suggest a change to the plan.
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Nov 5, 2013 7:19 PM # 
barb:
It would also be cool if my coach could propose a plan, and then I could alter it. Or even better, if my team's coach could broadcast to everyone on the team (or everyone in a subgroup of the team) a daily plan for the coming week, and then I could tailor it to suit me. Maybe I would swap the long training on Thursday for the gym workout on Wednesday. Or maybe I would lengthen or shorten the time of a particular workout.
Nov 5, 2013 7:22 PM # 
ken:
You can log "planned" sessions for yourself via your calendar (Log > calendar). Click on the day-of-month number to get to the form.
Nov 5, 2013 7:22 PM # 
barb:
Oh, cool. checking it out...
Nov 5, 2013 7:27 PM # 
barb:
Nice.
Can I see someone else's calendar?
Or, when I go to my log (or someone else's), could those plans be displayed somehow?
Nov 5, 2013 7:34 PM # 
ken:
There is an "as calendar" link hiding near the bottom of all logs. You can use that to get to other people's calendars.

Worth noting that planned sessions aren't available for free accounts. An alternative option is to add a note for a future date, which anyone can do. These end up looking like private events in your log/calendar.
Nov 5, 2013 11:05 PM # 
GuyO:
I like the way events show up on my log.

Unfortunately, they include ones you've marked as "No (on list)"...
Nov 5, 2013 11:36 PM # 
mikeminium:
GuyO: Unfortunately? Sometimes that's the point of listing them - so that you see a reminder of the date.
Nov 6, 2013 6:35 AM # 
GuyO:
@Mike: Why would you want to be reminded of the date of an event that you had no intention of going to? If you were uncertain about going, you should have marked it as "Maybe".

It's unfortunate, because it results in having events appear on -- and clutter -- your log, which you didn't go to.
Nov 6, 2013 7:13 AM # 
Samantha:
Then don't mark it with "No."
Nov 6, 2013 7:33 AM # 
Uncle JiM:
Or select 'No (Not on list)'
Nov 6, 2013 1:04 PM # 
jima:
One should not take quick glances at thread titles before you're fully awake.

Was expecting this to be a conversation on checking with all the powers that be prior to mapping an area - if there are intentions of logging it at any point in the not too distant future, save yourself some trouble and find a different area to map.

Otherwise you could end up with an area similar to the Bear Brook "lung" that looks on the map as if it will be impossible to set a course through there with any degree of challenge to it...
Nov 6, 2013 2:47 PM # 
barb:
Ah, also a good thing to think about.
Nov 6, 2013 10:30 PM # 
mikeminium:
GuyO: One example. A friend in another state is running a marathon. I have no intention of going. (orienteering elsewhere that weekend) But I put "No, on list" because I want to be reminded to call and ask how she did. So if you are annoyed by my cluttered log, that's tough - your personal problem, not mine.

Sometimes I also like to list events just to be aware of them for planning / potential conflict purposes, or because they look interesting or have potentially useful info on their website, and I want to be able to quickly link back to them to use their info or possibly to do the event in a future year. Again, if it bothers you, tough - its my log, and as Lucy would say, Nyah, Nyah, Nyah, Nyah! Or another of my favorite expressions: "DWI!". (Deal With It!)
Nov 6, 2013 10:37 PM # 
mikeminium:
Oh, and rarely, I have seen people use "no - on list" as a way to tell the organizer "your format / rules / date / etc" suck. I admit to doing that once or twice with rogaines that didn't allow solos, and indicating that in my comment. If you're "not on list", you can't post a visible comment on the AP event page. On a more positive note, you can also put in a cheer for a friend, or a positive comment like "wish I could - conflicting race - hope to make it next year".
Nov 7, 2013 12:40 AM # 
GuyO:
Thanks, Mike! You've now given me a reason to click on those events in your log you didn't go to, just to see what you wrote there... :-D
Nov 7, 2013 3:48 PM # 
barb:
Just to really go off-topic: I am against allowing solos in rogaines. For safety, you are much more likely to have problems when you are out for that long. And it is much harder to search for someone in a rogaine with larger area and so much more time to go anywhere, and the various route choices. Having said that, I have actually gone solo for part of a rogaine, so I suck.
I also think rogaine organizers need to do as much as they can to prevent people from driving afterwards. Find ways to provide ability to sleep first, or have someone else drive. Another thing (driving) that I've done too.
Nov 8, 2013 12:13 PM # 
Tooms:
Maybe the 'logging intentions' should be more focused towards clear-felling all the tangential trees so we can see the topical wood?
Nov 13, 2013 12:22 AM # 
Tundra/Desert:
Care to put a time limit, Barb? I think 4-hour rogaines are perfectly fine for solos, but most certainly not 8-hour ones. I think Mike is in the under-24-hour market for most of his rogaining.
Nov 13, 2013 12:56 AM # 
Mr Wonderful:
Six hour solo seems to be a Midwest staple.
Nov 13, 2013 1:28 AM # 
cmorse:
There were 6 solos in the 12 hour at Sleepy Hollow last weekend. I was one of them but had a hamstring pull about halfway through and decided I didn't want to risk a long, cold night in the woods by myself so called it a day at 7 hours. I reasoned that if I were to have injured it further, particularly on a non-trail route (where I would be more likely to injure it) then it would have been a very long time before anyone came looking or even had a notion of where to begin looking. We were required to carry cell phones, but cell signal in the hollows was pretty much non-existent.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the solo division and the opportunity to take part immensely (it was a great event/course) but there is certainly a much higher risk involved at that duration event for a solo competitor.
Nov 15, 2013 5:16 PM # 
winkepp:
A "planned" calendar..great idea barb! Thanks! And thanks Ken, for designing it as well.

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