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in: jjcote; jjcote > 2007-06-07

Jun 8, 2007 9:46 AM # 
And then at some point, getting your H-3 will entail an intentional crash into the trees?

As one who is much happier with both feet on solid ground, thanks for not posting in advance that you're going hang-gliding. Now by the time I know you're going, I also know you got back....
Jun 8, 2007 12:04 PM # 
an intentional crash into the trees?
Actually, no. The requirements for H-2 don't even require stall training, actually, that's on the H-3 list, but my instructor wants me to do it now because once I get my H-2, I could fly at some other sites (West Rutland in particular), and he feels that it's good to have this under one's belt before flying there.
Jun 8, 2007 1:03 PM # 
Boy, just looking at some of the things you're supposed to do makes me nervous....
Jun 8, 2007 2:44 PM # 
I do have the unfortunate knowledge in advance that he's going. Glad there's someone else out there who's nervous about what he's doing too. Can't wait until October!
Jun 8, 2007 3:47 PM # 
Around October is when my nervousness kicks in, with Dave off ice-climbing most weekends.

Stalling at 500 feet: bleah.
Jun 8, 2007 7:18 PM # 
What's a stall recovery like in a hang-glider? I don't mind doing power-off stalls in a small Cessna, but I'm scared shitless of power-on stalls, because you need to have such a ridiculously nose-up attitude. One spin too many, I guess.
Jun 8, 2007 8:05 PM # 
Depends on the glider. No such thing as a power-on stall, of course, although I guess you could jam the bar hard when you're flying fast for unnecessary excitement. On the docile beginner glider that I have, recovery is apparently pretty benign: you can just let go, and the glider will figuratively shake its head at you and just start flying again. The recommendation is to just pull in when the stall occurs. And the plan is for a pretty gentle stall, just fly straight ahead, ease the bar out until it mushes, then a bit more to feel the warning signs. And the nose will just drop at that point and it will recover airspeed. It's supposedly pretty darn hard to get one of these gliders to spin.

I once heard about a guy who, when taking the exam for his private pilot's license, was asked to demonstrate minimum controllable airspeed with full throttle, basically hanging the plane from the propeller. He got it on the second try, after demonstrating spin recovery the first time.
Jun 9, 2007 2:14 AM # 
[I can't get this video to play. Can anybody else?]

No luck here, but I don't know how this stuff works anyway. I just click and wait for something to happen. In this case, nothing. But the photo is really cool....
Jun 9, 2007 10:33 AM # 
Awesome, it works now. And it still makes me nervous just watching, even though I'm guessing you are having a blast.
Jun 9, 2007 11:35 AM # 
Great video. Rhonda and I were quite amused. That guy filming you flies really close. :)
Jun 9, 2007 2:57 PM # 
Pretty damn cool. Jackson thought it looked like a lot of fun - me, I'm not so sure
Jun 9, 2007 6:38 PM # 
That looks awesome. My one day hang-gliding experience was so pansy in comparison.
Jun 10, 2007 9:32 PM # 
JJ, that's awesome!!! I'm duly impressed!!
Jun 12, 2007 2:10 AM # 
When I took my FAA exam for a glider license, the inspector had me close my eyes and let go of the controls. He put the plane into a dive, then went straight nose-up. When we lost all airspeed, he said 'ok, it's all yours'. I was looking straight up at the sky, just as the plane started slipping backwards. Definitely a scary stall position.
(the exit maneuver was to kick over the rudder and back the plane until it flipped around -- a hammerhead stall). Hopefully the hang glider stall will be more benign.

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