Discussion: The Relays.

The relays are tomorrow. Who's gonna win?

USMAOC.

Ha.

There's not a non-West Point team in the IC Relay this year, and there wasn't in 2012, either.

COC is disqualified for being Canadian.

Is there a way to see the team line-ups before the start, for better speculation? Though naturally, my money is on CSU.

Is there a way to see the team line-ups before the start, for better speculation?

Well, CascadeOC's team should be obvious (and killer).

Looks like CSU has 20 points from 9 runners, but that could go a thousand ways, some worth more of your money than others...

@Ian :)

I'm relieved to report that all three of Cascade/Canada 1 are here, although we're still entirely unsure of where "here" is, being that we may or may not have crossed about four state lines in ~30 miles of driving. Where I come from, people make fun of your state if you can get to another one in under 200 miles.

WCOC1 - Charlie, Earl, Merick
WCOC2 - Niels, Clint, Hayden

Both 6 pointers... Joe sitting out unfortunately...

This is what we know, as of now...
Stno Team Class
Leg Name YB

1 QOC FUMA 1 3 Point
1 Colin Beverage 97
2 Jared Giszack 00
3 William Phillips 96

2 SVO SVO 3 Point
1 Samuel Kolins 84
2 Eddie Bergeron 69
3 Julie Keim 81

3 DVOA Goats Power 3 Point
1 Gregory Balter 63
2 Sergei Zhyk 79
3 Vadim Masalkov 69

4 DVOA 777 3 Point
1 Nathan Ohrwaschel 93
2 Florin Tencariu 74
3 Robert Hesketh 60

6 HVO A Girl & 2 Guys 3 Point
1 Kseniya Popova 86
2 Sergiy Gnatiouk 67
3 Peter Zakrevski 99

7 CSU Speed Demons 3 Point
1 Giovanni Berlanda 78
2 Ken Walker Jr 78
3 Isabel Bryant 97

8 COC Cascade 1 3 Point
1 Tori Borish 89
2 Eric Bone 74
3 Will Enger 86

9 ROC 1 3 Point
1 Lindsay Worner 84
2 Christopher Joyce 84
3 Richard Worner 47

10 NEOC 1 3 Point
1 Jeffrey Saeger 49
2 Ian Smith 85
3 Patrick McNeal 78

26 QOC Team Aleksiev(a) 6 Point
1 Petya Aleksieva 75
2 Videlin Aleksiev 73
3 Diana Aleksieva 01

27 nc QOC FUMA 2 nc 6 Point
1 Yufeng Che 98
2 Zimu Li 97
3 Blake Chiovaro 02

28 QOC FUMA 3 6 Point
1 Edward Moore 43
2 Carl Muench 64
3 Andrew Estes 00

29 QOC Six Horsemen 6 Point
1 David Onkst 62
2 Ted Good 64
3 Nadim Ahmed 61

30 nc Mixed Okoocqoc nc 6 Point
1 Peggy Dickison 60
2 Jon Torrance 71
3 Amy Louden 67

31 DVOA Spread 37 6 Point
1 Ron Bortz 51
2 Erik Eddy 87
3 Bob Fink 50

32 DVOA Mayland Family 6 Point
1 Corinne Mayland 72
2 Dan Mayland 68
3 William Mayland 05

33 CSU Babes 6 Point
1 Anna Shafer-Skelton 89
2 Alexandra Jospe 84
3 Katia Bertoldi 78

34 DVOA Rileys 6 Point
1 Angelica Riley 70
2 Wyatt Riley 73
3 Anthony Riley 01

35 WCOC 1 6 Point
1 Charlie DeWeese 47
2 Earl LaVallee 78
3 Merick LaValle 04

36 WCOC 2 6 Point
1 Niels Lyng-Olsen 65
2 Clinton Morse 62
3 Hayden Morse 01

37 nc Mixed Franken Team nc 6 Point
1 Bruce Metz 54
2 Ian Jones 90
3 Brad Whitmore 53

38 nc DVOA 6 nc 6 Point
1 Rob Wilkison 50
2 Sergei Fedorov 84
3 Larry Geist 51

39 NEOC 1 6 Point
1 Tim Parson 57
2 Bo Nielsen 63
3 David Yee 63

51 QOC Lennon Family 9 Point
1 Kathleen Lennon 61
2 Greg Lennon 57
3 Nicole Lennon 00

52 QOC 9a 9 Point
1 Dagmar Merkova 70
2 John Baker 66
3 Alexis Merka 04

53 QOC 9b 9 Point
1 Don Ames 52
2 Steve Camp 65
3 Abigail Camp 00

54 QOC 9c 9 Point
1 Sara Lemanski 82
2 Mark Mace 51
3 Keg Good 57

55 QOC 9d 9 Point
1 Francis Hogle 44
2 Patricia Mace 63
3 .

56 DVOA The Old Farts 9 Point
1 Bob Burg 46
2 Edmund Scott 45
3 Ron Wood 42

57 DVOA DDJ 9 Point
1 Donna Terefenko 53
2 Dennis Porter 56
3 Janet Porter 53

58 DVOA Furious Foxes 9 Point
1 Daria Babushok 77
2 Ann MacMullan 70
3 Margaret Bowerman 99

59 CSU Geezers 9 Point
1 Ken Walker Sr 49
2 Peter Gagarin 44
3 Gail Gagarin 48

60 nc Mixed ROCettes nc 9 Point
1 Judith Karpinski 50
2 Linda Kohn 50
3 Kathy Bannister 47

61 BOK Red Clay Runners 9 Point
1 Ian Shields 49
2 Joseph Huberman 50
3 Ruth Bromer 49

62 DVOA Jr. Team 9 Point
1 Kirsten Mayland 03
2 Brennen Hall 99
3 Oriana Riley 02

63 DVOA Franks 9 Point
1 Mark Frank 56
2 Mary Frank 59
3 Michelle Frank 00

64 DVOA R2A 9 Point
1 Frederick Reed 58
2 Bailey Reed 96
3 Lynn Aldrich 48

65 CAOC 1 9 Point
1 Michael Collins 70
2 Natalia Deconescu 55
3 Valerie Metz 60

66 nc Mixed O' Lovers nc 9 Point
1 Walter Siegenthaler 49
2 Clare Durand 62
3 Eric Smith 43

67 nc DVOA 9 nc 9 Point
1 Bradley Hall 59
2 Richard Ebright 59
3 Kathleen Geist 54

Wow, it's great to see so many teams! I think the move to 3 legs is the right one.
Go CSU!!!

Go CSU!!!!

We should be 17 minutes into the relay! Anyone in the arena with a smartphone right now?

Current:
3
CSU
SVO
DVOA

6
DVOA
WCOC
NEOC

9
CAOC
CSU
QOC

2 legs done in 6, leg 2 still out on 3 points

CSU at prewarning in 3

Ken Walker kills it

Eddie and Eric prewarning

Ian comes in 4 for NEOC. Hands off.

wcoc?

COC wins!!

DVOA in 6 point

CSU in 9

Yessssss.

3-point --

Cascade (Borish, Bone, Enger)
CSU (Berlanda, Walker, Bryant)
DVOA (Balter, Zhyk, Masalkov)

6 point --

DVOA (Angelica, Wyatt, and AJ Riley)
CSU (Shafer-Skelton, Jospe, Bertoldi)
QOC (Onkst, Good, Ahmed)

9 point --

CSU (Walker, P Gagarin, G Gagarin)
Chicago (Collins, Deconescu, Metz)
Quantico (Kathleen, Greg, and Nicole Lennon)

First time ever winning the top category for Cascade, and well done. CSU had the lead after legs 1 and 2, but a strong run by Will Enger did the deal. He passed Izzy Bryant partway through the leg, then she got back ahead, then he passed her for good. DVOA had to rally to take third after getting off to a bad start when their unnamed first leg runner baltered rather badly.

In the 6-point WCOC (Niels Lyng-Olsen) had a clear lead after the first leg but a strong run by Wyatt on the second leg made the difference and AJ held on for the win.

The 9-point was close between Chicago and CSU all the way, the teams never apart by more than a couple of minutes.

US Championship Relay results will be temporarily available at
http://www.vmeyer.net/relay_results.html

Same for splits at
http://www.vmeyer.net/relaysplits.html

http://www.vmeyer.net/ICrelay_results.html

http://www.vmeyer.net/ICrelaysplits.html

An exciting event, full of drama! Great job CSU! Some strong racing to be proud of.

Any comments on the 3-leg versus 4-leg format?

Great Job Tory, Eric and Will. Go COC!!!

Great job DVOA for hosting the event! Well done winning teams.

I think people generally thought the 3 leg format was better. Nice event.

This was my first A-event Relay, and I really enjoyed it!

Yeah CSU!!!

Thank you, DVOA, for a great weekend of racing! I don't have a strong opinion on the three legs versus four legs question. I guess four leaves more room for drama during the race, but three makes it easier for more clubs to field teams and to put their best feet forward with the teams they field. I find the latter reason most compelling, so I'm pleased with the three-leg format.

Agreed with ebone; thanks very much to DVOA for an excellent weekend. I found the reasons for the three-man format persuasive and suggest it be used in the future. It's hard to say how the modified format affected attendance, but the deeper field would seem good justification. The races on the second day were challenging, with good route choice.

Hopefully we'll have some decent intercollegiate competition next year from Virginia Tech.

I agree Dr. Phil. In 2 years it will be even better.

Having three-legs, with the last being Orange or Yellow level, IMO, offered more opportunities for younger juniors to participate.

Also, one of each of the top 3-teams in each category had a junior running anchor.

In the context of a discussion about what is appropriate for yellow and orange courses recently, http://www.attackpoint.org/discussionthread.jsp/me... I was wondering a bit about how other people felt about the yellow course for the 6 and 9 point relays. While I personally enjoyed the course probably more than I would most yellow courses I've looked at in regular A-meets, in retrospect I had the feeling that it might actually be technically a little tough for younger runners who normally run on yellow courses. Starting with the very first leg, it seemed there wasn't much in the way of a linear feature heading off to the general vicinity of the first control, and some of the paths nominally crossing the open fields seemed very non-conspicuous at least at this time of year. In fact, from my perspective, the difference between the yellow, orange, and brown courses for the 9 point course looked like they differed mostly in distance and perhaps climb, and not so much in technical difficulty. Does anyone with a little more frequent experience in setting yellow courses have thoughts on this? I can't say I heard a lot of complaints on the day, so maybe I just usually set yellow courses too easy, or maybe the group of juniors that are competing on US champs relay teams represent a more highly trained end of the spectrum that normally runs yellow than more typical beginners, and setting something a little closer to a shorter version of the orange course is altogether appropriate in this context.