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Discussion: CW8 vetting

in: ebuckley; ebuckley > 2018-12-02

Dec 3, 2018 7:14 PM # 
silkychrome:
Sorry I didn't email you about course vetting this year. All of the trekking was on Hidden Valley property and access was tricky for me and Erl, so we didn't feel we could have others come at different times. And, the terrain there wasn't terribly complicated. There were a few controls I'm sure would have taken some orienteering criticism but we tolerated them for AR :)
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Dec 4, 2018 2:16 PM # 
ebuckley:
I was wondering why that request didn't come, but didn't take it personally. From the sounds of things, the race went very well. Nice job.
Dec 4, 2018 6:18 PM # 
Spike:
No complaints about controls from my orienteer perspective. The map was sketchy at 35.

If access weren't an issue, the area would be worth mapping. When I got home I spent a little time seeing what the lidar data would show (and adding a few features from some recent air photos):

https://twitter.com/okansas/status/106928056735777...

The Route 66 State Park was odd.
Dec 5, 2018 1:37 PM # 
silkychrome:
oh wow! so cool to see Spike!

this is one of, if not the, first outside events Hidden Valley has hosted on their property. mostly they do things in house, which limits them to ski/board/tube related activities. they allow employees to hunt on the property which is why access was a problem. but, other times of the year, this could be avoided.

especially now that they are installing the zip lines (opening Spring 2019) this could be a family-friendly, multi-sport venue if HV keeps their open mind on third-party events.

multiple MTBers have already asked me about bike access and HV is just not ready. they want to get the zip lines going and profitable before they focus on singletrack.

if we return i will be reaching out for mapping assistance!!
Dec 5, 2018 1:39 PM # 
silkychrome:
oh yes and Route 66 used to be a neighborhood that was razed due to pollution issues (STL natives would have more history). we weren’t going going to use the trails there but when singletrack was rained out we added Route 66 biking back in to try and stretch the distance. not perfect but it helped a bit.
Dec 12, 2018 5:15 AM # 
Ricka:
Times Beach was the community. They contracted for used oil [with dioxin pollutant] to be spread on gravel roads to keep down dust. Huge volume of soil was scraped and incinerated. Then site was okayed for use and made into a State Park. Seems to me to be safer than St Joe State Park which was (is?) covered with lead dust.
Dec 13, 2018 2:11 AM # 
ebuckley:
But not as safe as Lost Valley which, after A BILLION DOLLARS, is pretty much radiation free.

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